Protecting Your Data and Embracing Health Challenges

Ever wondered how to keep those pesky hackers at bay while enjoying the Super Bowl? Our guest Mo joins us as we unravel essential phone security tips and the importance of managing your digital footprint. We also share some laughs over the recent Super Bowl, especially with the Chiefs' defeat, affectionately dubbing them the "evil empire." And let's not forget the halftime show antics and the fun bets surrounding Gatorade colors and the length of the National Anthem — it was as unpredictable as ever!

Movie buffs, we have something for you too! Dive into our hilariously chaotic discussions on movie reviews and trailers, where we dissect the absurdities found on IMDb and the latest Fantastic Four trailer. As we express our excitement for the upcoming Captain America movie, we also poke fun at the extensive trailer reveals that seem to spoil everything. And yes, collectible popcorn buckets make a cameo in our discussion, from the iconic Wolverine bucket to the creative lengths studios go to lure us back to theaters in this streaming era.

From the world of film to fitness, Mo shares his inspiring journey with Pilates, challenging misconceptions and advocating for a Men's Pilates Club. We chat about the transformative effects of fitness on self-image and confidence, as Mo recounts how fitness helped reshape his life. Whether you're curious about starting a Pilates regimen or simply seeking motivation to embrace a healthier lifestyle, this episode promises an engaging blend of tech insights, movie critiques, and fitness inspiration. Grab your earphones and join us for a fun-filled, informative session!

Chapters

• 0:00 Super Bowl Halftime Show and Betting
• 11:12 Marvel Movies and Popcorn Buckets
• 19:49 Men and Pilates Trend Discussion
• 23:24 Men's Pilates Trend and Studio Ideas
• 36:32 Transformation of Self-Image and Confidence
• 42:05 Personal Data Security and Scams
• 52:24 Starting a Gentleman's Run Club
• 1:04:21 Inclusive Fitness Message and Inspiration

Transcript

Super Bowl Halftime Show and Betting

Speaker 1 0:00

If you were to give the average person advice using their phones, what's one thing they shouldn't do from a security perspective? Look at your footprint.

Speaker 2 0:07

Honestly, like that's like a big one, Like data is the name of the game now. So it's like the more your data is out there, the more people have on you. So you know, I'm not going to say, oh man, you know like people are going to hack you through this app, like people are going to social engineer you and and you know that's like where you're actually going to get a pop.

Speaker 1 0:27

What is up everyone? It's Coach Austin here with Kevin with your Nerd Out and Workout Podcast, when we nerd out, work out and podcast, and today we have Mo with us, a longtime client of ours at Hyper Strength. And we have Coach Gabe returning for his second episode back. We are very excited to have you guys on. Before we get into today's show, let's talk about the Super Bowl. Oh, ah, as you can tell by my hat, I'm very happy.

Speaker 3 1:00

Very happy with what I saw, not really.

Speaker 1 1:02

I mean, I didn't like both teams, but the evil team lost.

Speaker 3 1:07

Yes, we beat the Swifties we beat the Swifties.

Speaker 4 1:09

Finally, they finally lost. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot. How'd you feel?

Speaker 1 1:13

How'd you feel, Kev? I?

Speaker 3 1:14

feel like the world's healing. You know what I mean. The evil empire that is the Chiefs are finally have lost once, Not once, but they didn't get the three-peat, you know. So I'm happy about that because they actually the NFL struck a deal with Pat Riley because he owns the rights to three-peat and so I think he made like 600K. If they made merch right, Losers, Losers Suck it. So I'm happy they didn't win. Did you guys watch Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 1:46

Yeah, yeah no.

Speaker 3 1:48

Yeah, no.

Speaker 4 1:50

You know like highlights are highlights.

Speaker 2 1:52

Yeah, teams played, teams won some losses.

Speaker 4 1:54

There you go, there you go.

Speaker 1 1:57

The biggest loss was at halftime. Biggest loss, biggest loss Dude Dude Drake. Yeah, the biggest loss. Dude Dude Drake. Yeah, bro, yeah, bro.

Speaker 3 2:06

When he started doing that song I was like dog.

Speaker 1 2:08

Yeah, are you kidding me? Like he name dropped him. That was awesome. Looked at the camera and smiled. Yeah, I was like are you kidding me? I love it, Dude. My parents were like what is he saying?

Speaker 3 2:20

Yeah, I think the best part of the halftime show with the memes that came out of it. They're like oh, these are the people who didn't like the. Oh for sure, and it was just really funny. And then I saw a tweet. Someone said like all he did was mumble. It's like okay, buddy. Okay buddy, Sorry, we didn't have Rodeo. You know Jimmy out there.

Speaker 1 2:37

What was that era where all we had was rock for halftime shows.

Speaker 3 2:41

Well, that's because that was before, like NFL struck a deal with like Jay-Z and them to to like set up this whole halftime. Yeah, I think Jay-Z's involved or something like that. You know, I didn't know that. That's why it's been getting progressively better every year. Oh.

Speaker 4 2:55

I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 2:56

Yeah a low point of the halftime show, like when Paul McCartney did the halftime. Yeah, Like all the all, our parents were like, oh, that's so good. And I'm just kind of like yeah.

Speaker 1 3:09

No, I remember, See, it was like. It was like it was like three Super Bowls in a row, where it was like everyone was just kind of like cool.

Speaker 2 3:15

It was like the last oh buddy, that was yeah.

Speaker 3 3:17

Yeah, man for sure Dude tell you, has he done a show has?

Speaker 4 3:26

he done a halftime show.

Speaker 3 3:28

No, I don't think so. No, no, and you know what Next year?

Speaker 4 3:31

No, just kidding.

Speaker 3 3:33

I'll be really excited when they get like someone like from Korea to do the halftime show oh, like K-pop, like some K that'll be good everyone's like. Oh, you know, it has to appeal to everyone but yo there's a whole market.

Speaker 1 3:45

They're gonna draw in a whole market, a whole new market. That way you know. So Asia, the Asians, yeah, dude, they love they're gonna be full of those numbers, man, I'm just telling you that'd be insane dude, it'd be pretty awesome. What was it? Did you guys bet?

Speaker 4 4:04

did you guys like? She's like, I'm not gonna lose any money. I bet 100 here and 100 here that chiefs over here eagles here, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 4:10

I love that, hey, you like win net five bucks I like that.

Speaker 4 4:16

I guess that's the act of betting.

Speaker 3 4:18

So yeah, yeah, that's a niner. She doesn't like I respect that dude like play both sides.

Speaker 1 4:23

well, we, we did what several leg parlays Squares. Kevin and I bet red Gatorade. We were pissed. I'm so tired of these freaking teams.

Speaker 3 4:33

Okay, like oh, we're Philadelphia, we were green, so we're going to do lime. You know this is bullshit. I know you guys don't be drinking that lime, fucking Gatorade right. You're either drinking blue or you're drinking purple. Don't lie. You know what I'm saying. Purple had like the least odds. No, that had the best odds. Well, okay, depends on what we're talking about here. So lime was like minus 175. Purple was like plus 700. So you put 100 down at plus 700, you're going to get 700 bucks.

Speaker 2 5:00

But. But you're saying these are bets on what? Gatorade the player Bro like dude-.

Speaker 1 5:03

Yeah, they're dumb, bro Dude the Super Bowl has the craziest bets.

Speaker 2 5:06

It's like the funnest bets. I wish I could have done that National Anthem over under a minute.

Speaker 1 5:11

National Anthem over under a minute no 120.

Speaker 3 5:14

120 seconds 120 seconds.

Speaker 1 5:16

Well, they have like time, like so over under, and there was like other stupid ones.

Speaker 3 5:21

There was like okay, you can bet on the coin toss yeah.

Speaker 1 5:23

Heads or tails.

Speaker 3 5:24

I told my coworker like I'm going to put 100 on fucking tails. He was like dude, that's crazy. And then when the game started, I'm like if this is tails, I'm going to punch you. And then it was tails, I'm like bro. I put 100 bucks, you know, like passing yards for Patrick Mahomes well, those ones are very like in the game.

Speaker 1 5:46

I'll tell you the random ones.

Speaker 3 5:47

I did. That's my game, I did one, because I talked to you. I talked to Kobe. Kobe was telling me some stuff that might happen oh, kobe loves betting, yeah, yeah so I had one where a non QB was going to throw a pass. I had over 2.5 players throwing the ball in the game. So when Kenny Pickett came in and threw the ball, I'm like, yeah, baby, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. And they're like why are you yelling, dude? You root for some random shit, man, what was it One of our prop bets?

Speaker 1 6:15

well, this was in the game, but we bet Mahomes would throw an interception, so I was fucking ecstatic. When he threw it to Cooper DeGene I was like fuck yeah man. But yeah, there's other random items that make it fun for people who don't follow the game to be like oh, there was other ones man, I can't remember.

Speaker 3 6:33

Okay, I remember a couple years ago, when Maroon 5. Was it Maroon 5 who did the half, or was it just Adam Levine?

Speaker 4 6:41

I think Adam Levine with somebody else, or was it Coldplay?

Speaker 3 6:44

No, I can't remember All I said on my website. It said color of shoelaces oh yeah, and I was like brown and I was like, okay, give me brown. And I was looking at his shoes.

Speaker 1 6:56

I was like what is he wearing?

Speaker 3 6:58

And it turned out to be pink.

Speaker 1 6:59

I'm like son of a bitch yeah, like whatever the halftime performer. Like is there going to be a guest performer? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Coming in.

Speaker 3 7:07

Or like what's the first song they're going to play?

Speaker 1 7:09

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 7:10

I remember Katy Perry year. There was one Left Shark right. Yeah, yeah, yeah when they said, oh, what's going to be first Firework or stuff like that, you know. Those are the fun ones For next year.

Speaker 1 7:20

Yeah yeah yeah, For next year, man. Next year hopefully we'd be in it.

Speaker 3 7:27

Let's hope so, man.

Speaker 4 7:29

I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 7:30

One time, one time we just Come on man In my lifetime please.

Speaker 1 7:36

Yeah, but a little bit before this episode we were talking, gabe came in and he talked about his experience last night. He watched the movie. Gabe, what did you watch last night? Attack?

Speaker 4 7:46

on Titan. This is the movie of. Can you explain what the movie was about? I'm not really sure.

Speaker 1 7:56

It's basically the last part of the whole series.

Speaker 4 7:59

I think so yeah.

Speaker 1 8:00

Right, yeah. So I think most of us here in this room watched, mo, you watched Attack on Titan. We watched from the beginning. Watched.

Speaker 2 8:08

What that was an experience, an experience. An experience An experience.

Speaker 4 8:12

An experience of Attack on Titan is an experience.

Speaker 1 8:15

Yeah, you're right, You're right, Mo. Crazy Attack on Titan is an experience that we all went through, most of us in this room brutally.

Speaker 4 8:22

But in this room brutally. But but, gabe, I'll get on it. So my brothers would watch it all the time and I would pop in every episode, just like it looks cool. I'll get on it one time and I don't. I'm busy. And then they're like you guys want to watch the movie. I'm like sure, why not? And so I want to go see the movie. You say no, I like bonding time, that's true.

Speaker 2 8:43

What's the movie about bros? Oh, it's the ending of the series. Oh, you know what I'm good. That's how you do a conversation.

Speaker 4 8:50

So you had no idea what was going on. No, my brother sent me a 30-minute YouTube video that compressed the whole storyline.

Speaker 1 8:55

Oh, I didn't get time to watch it.

Speaker 3 9:00

So you were given every opportunity to catch up and enjoy the movie and you're like I'm busy. That's crazy. Yeah, I love that. I love that. I mean I get it.

Speaker 1 9:12

So you were going to, you didn't know who Levi was. You just saw him in a wheelchair.

Speaker 4 9:16

Look at this cripple.

Speaker 1 9:18

You didn't understand. You never saw Irwin's battle cry.

Speaker 4 9:23

The charging to the last stand. They start with the big guys coming. What are these?

Speaker 1 9:29

bodybuilders coming out of the sauna for Following this big skeleton man. Where's his skin? That's pretty cool, so you don't.

Speaker 4 9:40

It's just so much that you miss. Yeah, I know it's a lot. I mean you can still watch it, you can still.

Speaker 3 9:44

Yeah, I know it's a lot, it's a lot, I mean, you can still watch it. You can still watch Start Over.

Speaker 4 9:47

That's a lot. I have some of the soundtrack on my Spotify playlist. It's cool, it's about it.

Speaker 1 9:53

It's like rumbling.

Speaker 3 9:54

Rumbling Dude. All the intros go hard.

Speaker 4 9:58

Yeah.

Speaker 1 9:58

They're so good yeah man so.

Speaker 3 9:59

Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 10:01

So yeah, Did you even watch the whole thing?

Speaker 2 10:04

Yo, he fell asleep.

Speaker 4 10:05

He fell asleep, dog, I was so tired.

Speaker 2 10:08

I was so tired.

Speaker 4 10:08

I watched it like this is cool, this is cool. And my niece came with us too, so I just feel like she's like, I'm like.

Speaker 3 10:16

Stab you on the shoulder.

Speaker 4 10:17

Wake up, dude. Yeah, but it was cool. It was cool From what I saw. It was cool.

Speaker 1 10:22

Okay, so can you explain to us, from what you saw, how did the movie end? I don't know, Like in your eyes, how you saw it. Explain the last scene. It was like a dream.

Speaker 4 10:34

It was like a dream, almost, like not me having a dream In the movie. It was like a dream Like someone woke up and then it was like how do you feel, Whatever? And then he's kind of like like are you? I forgot what he said too, but yeah, they wake up on a boat or something, wow, and they have like multiple lives or something. So then, like when he woke up, like he's like someone killed themselves, someone commit suicide, that's all I know. And when they commit suicide, it healed everything. And then everybody was like wow. And then everybody was like wow, they kind of like live their lives and shit, or something like that. That's all I remember.

Speaker 3 11:12

This is like somebody like poorly writing an IMDb explaining what the movie is On the wiki.

Speaker 1 11:18

Or on the wiki website, like who gave this 10 year old access to describe the end of the?

Speaker 3 11:23

movie that's tough bro.

Speaker 4 11:25

Yeah, I'm going to have to rewatch. I totally understand. No, it's not rewatch, you need to watch. You need to watch.

Speaker 3 11:32

It's funny because you described me. I kind of understand what you're saying. At the same time I'm like you're ruining it, damn it, you're ruining it. But I get. I understand what you're saying, I get it yeah, I'm sorry, no you're good, you don't need to apologize. It's just funny how you're like. Ain't nothing wrong with a little family time, bro. I respect that. No, you came and you're like.

Speaker 1 11:53

I watched the Tag on Time movie. You're like, oh, how was it? You're like, oh, it was good. You're like yo watch the whole series. Nah, what.

Speaker 3 11:59

Damn, damn. Yeah, that was fun, that was sub.

Speaker 4 12:03

Yeah, it was cool, that's wild.

Speaker 3 12:06

It's all right, it's all good. Hang out with the brothers I like it.

Speaker 1 12:08

Fantastic Four trailer. How are we feeling about that?

Speaker 3 12:11

Oh, have you seen it? Mm-mm, you haven't seen it. I'm sorry it's a little one thing right it's okay, don't worry about out of four have seen it. Mo just saw it.

Speaker 2 12:21

Yeah, let's get your reaction. It's a little stinky.

Speaker 3 12:24

In my opinion, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 12:25

I think that the casting's really cool. You know, we got Cousin Chef. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Like that dude. The rest of it was just not. It was a little confusing. It was all over the place. It was giving Interstellar at some points True.

Speaker 1 12:41

I was like where's?

Speaker 2 12:42

Doomy, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 12:43

Well they're saving that for later.

Speaker 3 12:45

They're saving it for later. We already got the big review. You don't know yet. We will see, we'll see, but I don't know, man, I think it'll be good. You know, I don't know, I feel maybe some people out there that aren't like full MCU fans or or just film fans in general, might have a little fatigue of Pedro Pascual Pascual Sorry, pascual Pascual, but like you know what I'm saying. Like he's been in so much things lately, like now he's Reed Richards, a beloved character, just killing it. Yeah, I mean he's killing it, but we'll see how it goes, because I think I'm hoping. Woman, though, yeah, I do like, uh, like you said, cousin, the thing, the cgi on him looks really good and the the form they picked you know, I forget which artist it is, but it's a really I like the look they're going with right now. I like the feel yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 1 13:36

I mean I'm, I'm ready for it when was the last new marvel movie, oh, I mean latest one we have.

Speaker 3 13:42

We have Captain America coming out next week actually.

Speaker 4 13:45

Oh.

Speaker 3 13:46

At the time of this podcast Next week. Next week, yeah, was it this week. It's this Thursday actually. Couple days, couple days. Okay, that's the latest one. Yeah, you guys excited about that, or what.

Speaker 4 13:58

I saw the trailer yesterday. It looked pretty cool.

Speaker 3 14:01

It has some stuff.

Speaker 2 14:05

I watched Falcon and the Winter Soldier and that was kind of good. I don't know how that's going to translate into the movie, though I forgot who the villain is actually. The newest one, the new Captain America. I'm Sam up again. Oh, it's Han.

Speaker 1 14:18

Solo. No, it's Han.

Speaker 3 14:22

Solo.

Speaker 4 14:23

Han Solo.

Speaker 3 14:24

Well, I I mean Harrison Ford, he's yeah they recasted what's his name, the general cause he passed away, oh, so Carol Sanders yeah, so he's. He's playing the Red Hulk, you know, and they kind of oh, yeah, yeah, yeah so yo he's gonna get whipped. That's what I'm saying. Oh yeah, he doesn't even have he's not even a superhero. Yeah, I know they just give him wings. You know what I'm saying. But yeah, it's going to be interesting to see, because the big thing they showed in the trailer that they're introducing adamantium into the adamantium adamantium.

Speaker 3 14:54

Sorry, sorry, but yeah, I saw it in the trailer. I'm like dude, why are they revealing so much stuff?

Speaker 1 15:01

well, well, I mean, that's how it is.

Speaker 3 15:02

I know. I mean, I guess, because there's not much hype over it. So they got to reveal a little bit more to get people involved.

Speaker 1 15:08

So I'm excited I got it's going to be the popcorn bucket.

Speaker 3 15:11

Sick, though. What is that? It's his shield, the Captain America shield, and then, like it, opens up. Oh, that's you know those little like those little st stools that are portable stools, yeah, yeah, yeah, kind of looks like that shut up, but with a shield, so they're like making a big play on these like popcorn buckets.

Speaker 2 15:26

Hey man, I'm just happy it's a popcorn bucket that no one's gonna try doing anything yeah, yeah. I'm just saying Dune 2, dune 2, what they had, the Wolverine one the Wolverine one.

Speaker 3 15:41

I love that one dude that's crazy.

Speaker 1 15:43

I was like no. The butter was falling all over. Like what are you doing?

Speaker 3 15:47

I called out of work for the Wolverine bucket, bro, Because I was just like.

Speaker 4 15:51

I need that.

Speaker 3 15:52

I need that dude, but yeah.

Speaker 2 15:55

Oh shit, I'm just saying they just went a little too wild on that, you know.

Speaker 1 15:59

I mean, that's what they gotta do. They gotta draw people in, right? Yeah, no one's watching the movies anymore Because they're all doing popcorn buckets now.

Speaker 3 16:05

I remember Alien Romulus had one, even Gladiator 2 had one. It was like the Coliseum, it wasn't anything fancy.

Speaker 4 16:11

It gets people in the theater.

Speaker 3 16:12

You know what's crazy? True, a movie that just came out, the animated one, dogman. Have you seen that? It's like a police, a police guy and a dog right and there's an explosion. So the surgeon was like let's put the dog's head on the guy's body. So now he's like a dog, but like a cop, but dog man. What movie is this?

Speaker 1 16:34

it's called dog man where, like when, was this out?

Speaker 3 16:36

it just came out, like last week or something, the popcorn bowl is literally a dog bowl.

Speaker 4 16:42

It's like a dog bowl.

Speaker 2 16:42

Yeah, it looks like a dog bowl.

Speaker 3 16:43

Oh, that's smart yeah, yeah yeah, you should.

Speaker 1 16:46

I mean, how come I've never seen any Trailers for dog men? I saw a little bit yeah.

Speaker 2 16:50

Really yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 16:51

Yeah, is it a comedy? The simulation theory is real, yeah it's like a.

Speaker 4 16:55

It's like a.

Speaker 3 16:56

It's like an animation, like for kids, supposed to be for kids, something like that.

Speaker 1 17:01

It's supposed to be for kids.

Speaker 3 17:02

Yeah, it's like it's all fun. Ha ha ha, let's put. Let's put, like this dog's head on this guy's body, that's not a ha ha, it is.

Speaker 1 17:11

If you see the trailer.

Speaker 4 17:13

I guess I'll watch it.

Speaker 3 17:14

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the fuck? You know it's crazy. Popcorn buckets are going off, so Well, I mean that's you gotta, you got to make more money somewhere.

Speaker 1 17:22

Figure it out. What was it so? Latest trends that has been going on in 2025. I know the last episode we talked about. Actually, you know what I'm going to backtrack.

Speaker 3 17:32

Okay.

Speaker 1 17:32

I'm going to check in with you, kev, because the first episode back you stated you were starting the Ozempic journey.

Speaker 3 17:40

We started some Oz.

Speaker 3 17:41

So this is a check-in on episode two, I think this is like what we're like three weeks since our last recording. That's our cadence. It's been pretty good, you know, I'm eating less, you know, and don't have much cravings as I do, which is great, you know. But I definitely think if anyone's like interested in doing it, it's like it's definitely a thing you should try out, because what they're doing with medicine now is insane. Like it's just before I would come home from work. I'm like, oh man, I'm freaking. I'm hungry, you know, even though you know I might have eaten like two hours ago or something, but I come home I don't feel hungry, I don't feel like man, I need a cheese burger.

Speaker 3 18:23

You know what I mean. But it's just, you know, know it's kind of changing the way I'm like thinking about food now, which is pretty insane, because before, if I felt hungry, I wouldn't eat, you know what I mean Whereas this kind of helps me suppress it down a little bit and I could wait two more hours, you know what I mean. Or like, oh, it's lunchtime, you know what. Like, oh, it's lunchtime, you know what I let me finish my work and then, and then I'll do it, you know. So it's so far it's been really good. We've had some progress. We're not going to reveal that just yet, probably later on, when we get something really nice going on, but we do see some improvement and it's pretty insane. So I'm interested to see. We're going to be upping our dose soon, so we'll see how it goes.

Men and Pilates Trend Discussion

Speaker 1 19:04

So I like it. Appreciate you sharing that with us. Thanks, yeah, no problem. No, it's good. No, this is great. So, bouncing off that, we were actually talking about other trends going on in fitness and the one thing I was scrolling on my I was scrolling on my TikToks and there's, I guess, more creators now female creators talking about, or fitness creators talking about how they don't like it when men are in their Pilates class. It's like a growing thing now, but I don't think they understand that a man made Pilates. What's his name? Joe Pilates, joe Pilates, but it's like a thing I don't understand. I don't understand. I mean, I get it. It's supposed to be A female energy space, but it's like, dude, it's Pilates. If you're a guy watching this or listening to this episode Right now, and if you're interested In a different type of workout That'll help your stabilizer muscles, pilates is a big thing. Have you guys tried it?

Speaker 2 20:01

Yeah, so I personally have not. I've been avoiding it, but my girlfriend and one of my friends, his wife, they're trying to get us to go to a Pilates class, like all the time. Where, which one?

Speaker 1 20:14

Wait, time out, time out you have a girlfriend. Yeah Yo, for those who don't know, when I trained Mo, when I was training Mo, you did have a girlfriend. And then, when I had a kid, I had to have Gabe coach you. And then now you have a girlfriend. What's?

Speaker 2 20:30

going on there, buddy. Yeah, no, it's cool, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's dope.

Speaker 4 20:35

Sick, sick.

Speaker 1 20:37

Cool. You're dope, that's awesome. How'd you guys meet?

Speaker 2 20:41

Yeah, no, we met on the apps. I think like everybody's meeting on the app Nice. For the most part, you know. So we met on an app, yeah, and you know, at first she like we went out for a little bit and then she broke up with me because she was like I got to focus on school, right, fair, you know law school, just to be. You know, yeah, I've seen a lot of the Cupcake, the DLP watch stuff, yeah, so Just throwing that out there that's a whole other topic.

Speaker 1 21:12

Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 21:12

Fair.

Speaker 4 21:13

Fair, fair, fair.

Speaker 2 21:14

So afterwards, like we'd send her memes and everything and like we would just keep chatting and eventually, when we were both in a good spot, like we decided to go out again Nice.

Speaker 1 21:24

So you're saying memes are the key.

Speaker 2 21:26

Memes are the key. Well, like be careful.

Speaker 4 21:28

Yeah, but but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely it's cool man.

Speaker 2 21:33

That's awesome. I love that. I'm just happy.

Speaker 1 21:45

I'm very happy for you.

Speaker 2 21:46

Yeah, no and she's dope. I mean she's been like like I've been through like a bunch, like you know, with like my body and weight loss and just work and everything and super supportive.

Speaker 1 21:56

Nice, that's awesome yeah dude yeah, okay, so which Pilates class then?

Speaker 2 22:03

yeah, no, it's like I said. I know nothing about it by design and it's an SF, that's all I know.

Speaker 1 22:11

Oh, and I use the excuse.

Speaker 2 22:13

Oh man, I'm too far, that's like. Well, what is that? Like a couple hours away. There's no way I can get there, oh man.

Speaker 1 22:22

No, I think one of the popular ones are solid core. Right now there's other versions of Pilates, like Legree. A lot of athletes do Pilates, oh yeah, but it is a growing trend. Like, women are uncomfortable for men to go into the class because they feel like the men are watching. And I'm like I mean, first off, you're a man going into Pilates and you're watching, like bruh, you got a problem, you got to go Stop.

Speaker 3 22:49

Get on the apps, brother. Get on the apps. Get on the apps. Get on the apps. They work.

Speaker 1 22:54

Don't be headhunting into Pilates at yoga studio. But at the same time, it's like if you want a great workout, pilates is great. I'm just saying. I'm just saying it's a lot of resistance, right? Well, it's a lot of putting yourself in positions where it's challenging or stabilizing your muscles which majority of men don't work out. Yeah yeah, yeah, squat, as Gabe would tell us. You know, we're squatting 600 pounds. Benching 400 pounds.

Speaker 4 23:20

I do want to try it, though, because I've seen athletes get humbled real quick.

Speaker 1 23:24

Yeah, dude because you're doing like a one foot pose and it's like touch your toe, yeah but, with your other arm you're like what and then, while also sliding your other leg on this reformer yeah and putting the other arm in the air. So you're like bouncing and you're controlling. That's a lot. That is a lot. We're not bouncing a barbell up and down, I'm just saying. You're moving your own body weight, bro it just baffles me, because these women are like Nah, this is our famine space, but I'm like you know, joe Pilates.

Speaker 1 23:53

He's a dude Dude made this, dude made this.

Speaker 3 23:55

His name is Joe.

Speaker 1 23:56

His name is Joe. He's just an average guy, just saying so if you're listening to this podcast. His name is Joe. He should do Joe. She knew Pilates. It's more yours than the women's. I'm just saying yeah what, yeah, what Am I getting canceled now? No, men have a right to Pilates, but at the same time, if you just want a women's, only group, then call it a women's Pilates class.

Speaker 4 24:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got a strong girl squad at. Hsc. I love that. Come sign up, it's not too late.

Speaker 3 24:29

Every Saturday Every.

Speaker 1 24:30

Saturday we coach Nicole. Yeah, nicole, strong girl squad, shameless plug.

Speaker 3 24:37

Yeah, I wouldn't mind trying a Pilates class.

Speaker 1 24:39

Dude, I think it's great. I want to have the whole team to do a Pilates class together. I'd be down, I'd be sick.

Speaker 3 24:48

That'd be cool. I'd be sick Because there's a little different style of working out.

Speaker 1 24:53

What is the best Pilates studio? I don't know if you guys are listening or watching this podcast. Comment below what's the best Pilates studio for men?

Speaker 3 25:02

Men.

Speaker 1 25:02

Menlotties, menlotties.

Speaker 3 25:04

Menlotties, menlotties.

Speaker 4 25:05

Menlotties.

Speaker 3 25:06

That's kind of crazy actually.

Speaker 1 25:08

You know how? They have, like you, ever heard of that cafe called Joe and the Juice, mm-mm, oh no, yeah, I know it's like a very popular cafe. It's called Joe and the Juice and they have like acai bowls. They have like dude Anthony talks about this thing all the fucking time, really Joe and the Juice. And then the logo is like a dude with a hat and he has juice. It's a silhouette and people love this shit. No, look it up. Joe and the Juice, right? Huh, it's local. Yeah, oh, joe and the Juice. Well, it's like it's around here, but it's big enough.

Speaker 3 25:46

The only time I ever had Was when we went Rye SF. Is that Rye?

Speaker 1 25:49

Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, after our we hiked Mission Peak, mission Peak. Yeah, shout out to Rye SF. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but no Joe and the Juice. So what I'm trying to get at is that someone should make a Pilates student call Joe's Pilates, which is Joe and Pilates, joe's Pilates, joe and the Pilates. I don't know. That'd be interesting. Name it after a dude. Dudes will come.

Speaker 4 26:07

Pilates and the Joe.

Speaker 1 26:08

Have an NFL player. Talk about it, because a lot of NFL players do it.

Speaker 3 26:11

Yeah, that's true, huh. Balance Stability.

Speaker 1 26:14

Same. That could maybe solve like Too many men in the women's class.

Speaker 3 26:17

And maybe we need more Men's Pilates class Studios. Maybe Actually not studios Gyms Sounds better, gyms Clubs. Men's Pilates club goes hard dude Men's Pilates club.

Speaker 1 26:34

Gentleman's Pilates club oh, that's a different direction.

Speaker 3 26:38

That's a different direction. I'm done, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in Over on San Carlos.

Speaker 1 26:49

Oh shit, all right. Well, I wanted to go over the main part of our show today. We invited Mo to get on the show because he's been a longtime client of ours and I wanted him to share, you know, his journey because he started, you know, training with me for a bit. And Mo again, welcome, welcome, welcome, just chilling here with us, and, yeah, I'll let you. You know, start with how you, how did you find us actually?

Speaker 2 27:14

Yeah, so I had moved here from LA at the time and I wanted to get, so I had come. So in LA I was at another gym called the Camp.

Speaker 3 27:28

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 27:28

So, yeah, y'all have seen that like workout, so it was a great great program at the time and it was just like what was it? It's like you paid some money and if I kept losing weight like I kept getting free membership. You got it Gotcha, yeah, yeah, yeah you know, and then if I hit my goal weight, they give me my money back. So I'm like oh, free gym right, bro, you're never going to hit those goals.

Speaker 1 27:48

Well, what do they have you? Okay, what do they put you at? That's kind of wild.

Speaker 2 27:52

So they gave me like a BMI right and I was basically like, okay, you got to lose like 30 pounds here, gave me like a diet thing. Um, like I still even have the, uh, the book right and it's just like all and like again, if you, if you do it, that's great, like if what works for you may not work for someone else.

Speaker 2 28:13

Um, it was like working out almost five, six days a week right you had to like sign into the classes and then you had you had to stay on the diet if you wanted to actually get the losses from it. Right and like. The big part about like the diet is you know it's very it was very keto, right, so it was reading like that. But there were days where it was just like, oh, you know, I'm having trouble like getting some weight off, because that's how weight loss works right, you can't just lose all your weight at once.

Speaker 3 28:46

And there's like oh you know.

Speaker 2 28:46

I'm having trouble like getting some weight off, because that's how weight loss works right you can't just lose all your weight at once and there's like a crash diet page. Oh shit when it's like all you eat is asparagus and whitefish Whoa. Yo, I mean you'll lose the weight.

Speaker 1 28:57

Dude.

Speaker 3 29:07

I saw all your eating Until like you hit like if you want to hit your goal, right.

Speaker 2 29:10

So you go and do it. Man, your piss must have smelled, bro. That's so bad, that's insane, so bad, horrible. So you know that's like extremes. You're at the last five days and you need to lose like three, four more pounds and you do that I see. So the first month worked great for me.

Speaker 2 29:27

Pounds and you do that, right I see so the first month worked great for me I was like down like 25 pounds and I was like, yeah, I'm like so strong and I like work out every day, uh-huh. And you're like great, you have another month of that. I was like oh you're like and then that's when I like, I started like feeling like the real, like I can't keep this up forever, right, you know? And then I didn't hit my goal that month. And they're like oh, you're in the fuel this month. So I found another job and I left LA.

Speaker 3 29:56

So if you hit your goal, they give you your money back, Like eventually right, oh, I see you have to like.

Speaker 2 30:01

Hit your like.

Speaker 3 30:01

BMI. Oh, I see that's wild. Imagine, like you guys working out and and they're like alright, guys, great job, we'll see you next week. There's a plate of donuts for you guys on your way out, if y'all want. Dude, I'm telling you, bro, I've been telling this man you sell the bullets and the bandages, bro that was dude. I was back when we sold mochi donuts during the pandemic and I saw mochi donuts during the pandemic.

Speaker 1 30:23

Yeah, and I was also doing fitness classes.

Speaker 2 30:24

That was dope. Huh, I mean, it was great. Those were great donuts.

Speaker 4 30:28

They were really good.

Speaker 1 30:30

But, yo, you did not help me at all.

Speaker 3 30:33

I didn't help anyone I was just trying to make money during the pandemic. Bro, if this video gets a thousand likes, we bring back Mochimon. Whoa, we're bringing it back.

Speaker 1 30:42

So if we're bringing it back. So if you guys don't know, mochi Mon is from my wife. She's the one who created Mochi Mon. It's mochi donuts baked, not fried. And they're pretty. They're pretty dense, like not oily it was it was good. It was like and she could only make it. I tried. I tried to help her out because we were getting a lot of orders, especially when we're branding it and promoting it on instagram and we're doing a lot of word of mouth it was a lot

Speaker 3 31:13

of word of mouth and you know, and and when I try to make it, it it sucked. I'm just saying you know, but they they were fire.

Speaker 1 31:15

Yeah, great appreciate that anyways. So anyway, you did, did that whole thing right.

Speaker 2 31:18

Yeah, like in la and then eventually found a new job. You did that whole thing right, yeah. Like in LA, and then eventually found a new job, came out here and I for the first couple months wasn't going to a gym and then I was like, all right, let me look for another gym. And you know, there's like all the the camp was back right. I was like I could just rejoin the camp Easy peasy right. Luckily it was too far for me to drive. So sorry, so sorry the camp.

Speaker 4 31:48

Love you all, but like I don't think, I I didn't have the discipline for it uh, still don't.

Speaker 2 31:51

Um. So like I just wanted to go to a gym that was like a little bit more like casual. So like I went, looked at some gyms and you know some normal chains, right, you know some the planet fitness, you know like looked at all those and I was like, ah, I didn't really want that, cause I still can't make a workout for myself, right.

Speaker 2 32:09

Um, and then I went to Austin gym because it was like very nerdy themed and I'm like yes, perfect, like go in and you know, at the time it was in that like space, that was kind of like a warehouse looking kind of bro. Yeah, first location, yeah yeah, had like the zelda shield up yeah you have like link shield up there you have like a bunch of really cool, like artwork everywhere, and I was like yeah, this is it this is it? Oh, yeah, yeah, so and then I was like, yeah, let's try it out, and it was a good price at the time.

Speaker 1 32:40

And now hey, man barrier, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 32:43

Bay Area. Nah, it was good, it was close enough to home, I could hit it before I, you know in the mornings and yeah it was great.

Speaker 1 32:53

And where'd you, where'd you start and where you are now?

Speaker 2 32:56

so had a couple ups and downs. Right, I think I joined you around 350, 350 347 350 something like that is when I first started. Um fell off the train. Um hit like three 93 ish, three 95. Um, and then now this is like a, a saga of what, of what like five, six years almost yep, yeah. So now, um I'm at 235, um yeah so 235, maybe 237, hopefully not 240 but yeah, we'll see, that's amazing that's amazing hopping around that range in the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 33:43

Nice, yeah, dude it, dude, it's, it's progress. Yeah, it's awesome.

Speaker 2 33:48

Crazy. Yeah, a lot of it has been over the last um, because I was actually looking at some pictures, um, and I think it was like two, three years ago was when I was at like my heaviest, so, and then I started taking it really seriously, like two years ago, nice, yeah, so three years ago I was like I'll eventually get to it and then actually had a really bad breakup which is what prompted me to like oh, that was, that was right, huh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 34:17

I mean yeah, yeah. So I had a really bad breakup and like that was kind of not like prompted it, but it was like the final straw where I was just like you went to through your villain arc. Yeah, because I was like there's so many things that contribute to weight loss, right? So you know it's part of your like emotional and mental state and like actually losing the weight, like and getting motivated to do it. It's really tough.

Speaker 3 34:39

Right.

Speaker 2 34:40

So there were a lot of reasons why I wanted to, and for some reason, nothing was like enough for me, right? It wasn't like I didn't. Really, you know, I was so depressed I was like, ah, who cares about being healthy? Right.

Speaker 2 34:51

And I, like you know, I was happy just like sitting around playing video games, like I almost had like no furniture in my place too, right, so I literally was down to just do nothing but like eat, play video games, go to the gym and say I worked out, yeah, I'm like call it a day, right. So like I'm already. Like at that point I was really depressed. So I was like, okay, well, like you know what's gonna like make me want to lose weight. And then it just happened to be like, oh, I'm just like my self-image is horrible, right. And then that breakup was like I'm tired of like having a bad self-image of myself, right, because this person didn't really treat me well. And I was just like, oh, it's because I just don't look good or whatever, and even though that's not the reason you should lose weight. At the time, that was enough to help me get started and really figure, I don't want to ever have to go through this again. So it was cool. So thank you.

Speaker 3 35:44

I mean, that's some good self-awareness though. Yeah, like I think that's what sometimes we lack is, uh, being able to look ourselves in the mirror and say like I know what the problem is and I just got to do it, you know. So that's commendable.

Speaker 1 35:59

It was a good tipping point. I mean, it's a. So how has the experience been now versus before? You lost the weight, Do you see people treating you differently? Do you think about yourself differently? All that stuff.

Speaker 2 36:27

Yeah, it's like, there's like a couple of things to unpack there.

Speaker 4 36:31

Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 36:32

So one of the like big things that like there's a bunch of science about and you know, it's like first impressions and like what people think of you when they first see you and a lot of that is like OK, you're a bigger person, like what do I see about you, right? So yeah, first impressions for me have 100 percent changed. So yeah, first impressions for me have a hundred percent changed. And like the way like I interact with people and the way that people actually interact with me is different more more so than how I interact with them.

Speaker 2 37:00

Um, I get a different like vibe, a different energy, Right? Um, people like, like one of the big things and I noticed this a lot in LA is like I would go out alone because I didn't have too many friends and stuff and like I would always think that someone was like staring at me, Right, Because. I was just like. So big Turns out like when you're actually that big like nobody wants to like look at you.

Speaker 2 37:21

Like, because they don't want to be rude, right, right. So it was like actually like having like conversations with people, like sometimes it was just like, yeah, I can make like direct eye contact with you and whatever, but like sometimes people just don't want to be in that conversation. Um, you know, so like there are just these little like tiny things that you can like kind of notice and it it like it's a little isolating. So nowadays it feels a lot different like being, and the other half of that I think I touched on was like my own self image, right.

Speaker 2 37:55

So, um, if you noticed a lot of the things that I was saying is like I, I, I, I right, because you live in your head and um, when, at least when I was bigger, um, I like always felt that, you know, I had this paranoia of like being bigger and like what people thought about me, right beyond like what the science says and whatever like your doctors can tell you, right, so my self-image was really bad and it was, I think, night and day.

Speaker 2 38:21

One of the biggest things that I like looked at was like how I would dress and like it was all sweatpants and, yeah, these really big jeans, right like they wouldn't really fit right and the clothes, like I would order clothing that was just like way bigger, just so that I could like fit in it and kind of like hide some stuff in, right, and it was like not form flattering and it wasn't. It really wasn't doing me any favors and that's like the other thing. Like I just didn't care about myself enough, right? So nowadays, like I'm still not the best dressed, but I like take a lot more time and like getting prepared and like I'm actually excited to like go clothing shopping, like uh, actually this is like a new one for me.

Speaker 2 39:05

So, um, before I used to only order clothes online or I would go to, like you know, a casual male xl, which is not a casual experience at all, very, very, very uh like anxiety inducing, um, because you're like, oh my god, what if I don't fit into something at the casual male xl? But you always will, you always will like, but you never know. Um, so like, uh, I think like a couple of weeks ago I went into a Macy's for like was it a Macy's, I don't know, it was this department store for like the first time in years and I was looking for some clothing for an event I was going to and I was afraid nothing was going to fit me and like, everything fit.

Speaker 2 39:51

Oh shit, that I went to try on, yeah yeah, yeah, except the things that, like you were in, were clearly not my size, right, um, but I mean that was fine, like I used to only fit into like a 4xl or like a 5xl right, and I was like, oh, this xl is just a little bit too tight right, or, like you know, I can go into the 2x, but I think some of them are way too big and loose.

Speaker 2 40:15

So it's like it was pretty like crazy to me because before it was like I can only shop at this one store. Right Now I can actually shop around. Yeah, I actually have a bunch of Lululemon hoodies that like they were still a little too tight um a couple of months ago and I started wearing them like the last like two, three weeks, because I lost another like 25 pounds and I was like, oh my gosh, he's like fit, like I can wear Lululemon like comfortably now, like before it was just a little too tight, nice. So I think like all these little joys that I'm finding like from my body now have been like really helping with my self-image and when that happens, the way you like carry yourself in public changes too, so professionally.

Speaker 2 40:57

I feel like it's helped me a lot, and this isn't just like I've worked at the same place for five years. So like people have seen me and they're like, okay, like whatever, like Mo looks different because he lost some weight, but like I'm more comfortable to have conversations with people that like don know me right, and I'm okay to like speak up in rooms where before I like kind of just didn't want to be noticed and, um, like you know, I started actually doing like. So, like I got into my first conference recently and like I'm more I'm more nervous about like my actual content than I am about like showing up on stage, which was like where I used to be afraid of you know you're presenting at a conference.

Speaker 1 41:35

Yeah, that's what you're presenting about.

Speaker 2 41:37

Yeah, so, um, the title is in progress, Um, but it would essentially be about um building a security program that is, uh, structured around like AI risk management.

Speaker 1 41:49

Yo yeah, I thought it was like Moe's Pilates program or something. Moe's Pilates.

Speaker 2 41:58

Moe's Men's Pilates Program. Oh man, yeah my Pilates club.

Personal Data Security and Scams

Speaker 1 42:02

Yo Just saying no, that's exciting. Where's the conference at?

Speaker 2 42:06

It's at SF, it's at the Moscone Center. Oh sweet, is that what it's called.

Speaker 3 42:11

You can hit up the pilates after yeah exactly it's right there.

Speaker 1 42:15

You're not. That's cool, man, did you? Were you approached to to like no so?

Speaker 2 42:20

I applied oh yeah, I wrote a couple of um talks, um, with some friends as well, and, um, yeah, we, we got into for a couple of talks and I I can't do one of them, but I'm going to do the other.

Speaker 3 42:32

When is this?

Speaker 2 42:33

It's April 28th, nice, is that a Saturday? Is that a Saturday?

Speaker 1 42:39

I don't know what it is, I want to see if I can kind of watch it. Do I have to be a member or something?

Speaker 2 42:43

Yeah, you don't want to pay for it.

Speaker 3 42:46

As a non-security person.

Speaker 2 42:47

you don't want to pay for it, but the talks will be available for free after the conference.

Speaker 4 42:52

I want to watch this.

Speaker 2 42:53

But I also do have a little plug for myself. I have a couple of other podcasts, and so I can always share those out to you.

Speaker 4 43:03

Do you?

Speaker 2 43:03

want to hear about some application security, information security kind of stuff. I recently did one on the application security podcast about my journey in application security and how I got into security overall.

Speaker 1 43:17

So your job is like security based on app usage.

Speaker 2 43:24

So it's more like my job has changed a lot. But if we're talking about application security, it's more like how can I? Like you know, hackers basically want to break into an app, right?

Speaker 4 43:38

Yeah.

Speaker 2 43:38

So this would be coming from the opposite side like, okay, let me think like a hacker. How can I break this app? And then how can I inform really good fixes and how do we like make sure that people can't really break in as easily and where can we like put some more defense for this application?

Speaker 1 43:58

yeah, if you were to give the average person advice using their phones. What's one thing they shouldn't do from a security perspective?

Speaker 2 44:06

yeah, um austin loves tiktok wow, wow yeah, no, it's just why look, look for your, look at your footprint. Uh, honestly, like that's like a big one, like data is the name of the game now. So it's like the more your data is out there, the more people have on you.

Speaker 2 44:25

So you know, like I'm not gonna say, oh man, you know, like people are gonna hack you through this app, like people are gonna social engineer you through this app, like people are going to social engineer you and you know that's like where you're actually going to get popped or, you know, exploited. So it's not so much through an app, it's more through a series of like OK, where, what do I push? What buttons are the right ones to get Austin really interested in clicking this link?

Speaker 2 44:49

You know or like, like, how can I emotionally get this person invested in like what I'm about to say, right, um, is it, like, do I tempt them with, like an offer that they would not want to say no to? Do I tell them someone in their family's in danger? Right, so, like, how do I like get you like hooked? Right, how can I get you? Um, what's the easiest way for me to get you to send me money?

Speaker 2 45:13

even though you've never met me, you know right if I told you that, like your mom was in the hospital and like she's got 20 minutes, unless we can get uh money for, like you know, to actually get her to the next place and the insurance isn't going through, so like we can't, like this carrier will not go anywhere right, and like you say, hang on, let me like verify. No, no, we have no time. Like you can't call your mom right now that's pretty crazy right.

Speaker 2 45:40

Like some of these people are like very aggressive with like right, so you know you, you never know, like what it is. And like you know, on youtube there's a bunch of youtubers that like show like all the those phishing schemes. Yeah, yeah, you know all we want to fix your computer and stuff. Yeah, it's the same type of thing, right? So, like for anyone, it would just be watch your footprint. Stay really cognizant and remember. If it's like important enough for you that someone's trying to rush you through it, like take a step back and say, okay, well, like this doesn't really make sense, let me validate it myself.

Speaker 1 46:14

Yeah, got you have you ever been scammed?

Speaker 2 46:16

me yeah, um no, but there was this one time where my social security number was used to purchase a car shut up yeah, um, ironically, it was not because, like, I was bad at doing what I did, right, it was the vendor. So, like the Toyota dealership, toyota.

Speaker 1 46:37

Toyota.

Speaker 2 46:38

That yeah. I'm calling y'all out the dealership that I went to. They were using autocomplete to fill in customer information and someone had the exact same name as me. And instead of like taking their information, they auto filled it with mine. Wow, so out of nowhere, one day I'm driving home and I just see something. Congratulations on your rav, your rav4 2018 purchase, and I'm like the what oh, so I do you just call them over what?

Speaker 2 47:13

I do. No, it was months. Months, because I was like this is not my car, I want it off of my record. Like you know, I needed to send them a ton of information I need to send them you know like, hey, like this is like a packet of information.

Speaker 2 47:26

I need to call every single credit bureau. I had to do all these things right and since then it's just been. It was. It was just like crazy at that point in time. Now I like always keep a freeze on um. If I know like I'm going to be doing, like if I go get a new credit card, I'll like unfreeze my account, but that's like the only time I leave it unfrozen, gotcha you know, it's just crazy yeah like some of sometimes it's not your fault that like something happens, it's.

Speaker 2 47:52

It might be someone else. You. With all the data breaches that happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah it's just be as good to yourself as you can Look for your footprint, Do digital cleanups for yourself. There are a bunch of services out there that do it for you too, but yeah, definitely that's one. Just be mindful of your data and your footprint and where you exist in the internet Are you familiar with Deleteme, because I hear a lot about that.

Speaker 1 48:17

Yeah, is that a good?

Speaker 2 48:18

one. So they're a vendor. Yeah, are they good? Can't really say.

Speaker 4 48:23

Oh, oh, okay, you can't, no, well, never mind, that's pretty wild.

Speaker 1 48:28

Oh, they're a vendor for oh, I'm sorry, my bad.

Speaker 2 48:33

There are a lot of different vendors in the space. It would be appropriate for you know if you're really interested to go and look at some of those.

Speaker 3 48:41

It's pretty wild because, like a couple months ago, this prince from India or something, I sent him $2,500. I'm still waiting. He said he needed it because his kingdom was Grumbler or something. He's a good dude, though.

Speaker 1 48:53

He said he needed it because his kingdom was.

Speaker 4 48:55

Grumbler or something. He's a good dude though he said he'd get back to me.

Speaker 1 48:57

God damn. Well, what's next for Mo now, as far as physical feats Are you trying to do? A marathon, are you?

Speaker 2 49:03

trying to hike something. Man, that's crazy. So, like when I was first starting to lose weight, actually, the first thing I did was like I was really big into into photography and I decided like, ok, well, I'm going to go up this mountain so I can take some pictures, right, and like, literally, that's like how I actually started walking Nice. So I'd be like, ok, let me take walks around the block, let me start taking walks, like, up some hills, you know, let me. And I think the first one that I went to because I didn't want to go alone. I signed up for a meetup to go do a hike in del veil, I think, right, is that what it's called? Um, but I went there and like, like there was the whole group that was walking right and I actually walked in the opposite direction because I knew I'd beat them at the peak, oh shit. But I needed to like do it at my own pace, right, and I didn't want a bunch of people who are way more fit than me every like 20 what's happening here?

Speaker 3 50:10

like why?

Speaker 1 50:11

am I doing this where is she, rachel?

Speaker 4 50:17

yeah, that's good.

Speaker 1 50:19

So like are you so are you gonna hike now, or like, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 50:22

so now I don't really know, like, what I want to do. I think so in terms of weight, I have another 30 pounds, like 200 is actually like the goal weight for me, wow with 199 being like the like platinum trophy gs5 level right nice um, for me being like oh wow, I'm finally under 200, um, I think 300 was a huge one for me, though, like to be fair, like yeah 300 was insane.

Speaker 2 50:47

I had not been under 300 since high school. Um, yeah, so that was huge. Um, I think, like my sophomore year of high school is when I first found out I was three, 10, and then I'd never been below that. Um, I think in college I hit below it. I hit like two, 90, but I was doing like this crazy stupid diet. I would never do it again because right after I stopped it I inflated. Yeah, um, but yeah, yeah. So my next big one is hit 200 and then, um, I think, like, in terms of like things I want to do, like the weight loss part, I haven't like found, uh, like an activity that I really just like want to hit.

Speaker 2 51:28

Like you know, like for a while, I want to do spartan sprints yeah but, I'm just like I don't know if I really like I don't know if I'm really interested, you can totally do one. I mean, I maybe you know no, you can I mean, maybe I could you know, but I just it, I don't know. It like hasn't motivated me enough, like I've seen people do it like maybe I do it as a group, like if you, if you do one, I'll do one, you know well, we're planning a team one. Okay, well, like the gym I, like you know, I a sprint, I'd do it.

Speaker 1 51:58

Yeah, spartan sprint, I would do one and I would I want to do one in the stadium, the they usually have one in at&t, oh, at&t um. Is it still called at&t?

Speaker 3 52:07

part you're talking about giants yeah what's it have an AT&T sprint.

Speaker 1 52:12

It's pretty chill. We did it as a gym years ago and it was pretty fun because at the end you like run to home base. But yeah, I'll let you know, yeah.

Starting a Gentleman's Run Club

Speaker 2 52:23

I'd be down to do one. And I know my partner she runs a lot, so she's like she was in, like she was in I don't know if she's still in it, but she's in a run club like weekly, does like those events too. So I was like, yeah, maybe I could like try and do one. And you know, every time she invites me I'm like, oh yeah, I'm training for it.

Speaker 1 52:42

We actually might start a run club. You just reminded me we might start a run club. Well, no, we might, we are a run club.

Speaker 3 52:50

Huh, a gentleman's run club. Huh, a gentleman's run club. A, what A?

Speaker 1 52:53

gentleman's run club. A gentleman's run club. No, we're going to start a run club at AGCO, one of our members. I offered it to her because she always wanted to do it. I was supposed to meet with her Saturday, but kids. But we're putting together a beginner-friendly run club.

Speaker 2 53:11

I'd be down.

Speaker 1 53:12

You'd be down.

Speaker 2 53:13

That's cool, that's awesome, I think cycling is a big one that I'm going to get into though.

Speaker 4 53:17

Oh, there you go, because I really like riding my bike, that's fun.

Speaker 2 53:19

So I do the, I do what's it called? Vivo Calle?

Speaker 1 53:24

I don't even know what that is For San.

Speaker 2 53:25

Jose. So like it's just a day of riding bikes and, you know, getting out in the streets with rollerblades and stuff. So I do that every single time it comes around yeah. It is the most fun. I'm usually like riding for like 10, 15 miles, like I'm doing it for like a couple laps, that's cool. Every time I come back to train in with Gabe I'm like yo my legs are dead.

Speaker 1 53:49

What have you been doing with Gabe? Like what other training modalities?

Speaker 2 53:53

So I mean Gabe can speak to it more.

Speaker 1 53:56

so Because I haven't trained in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 53:59

Yeah, it's all good it happens.

Speaker 2 54:01

But like we do like mixed stuff, you know, like I know like I've been giving Gabe a bunch of crap Like yo, I want to do like more like cardio, intense, like heart rate, like get my heart rate bumping Less, focused on some of the like muscle stuff, yeah, but yeah no, I mean that's kind of like where I was, like I want to build like more endurance and more. You want a.

Speaker 1 54:20

John Wick workout. John Wick John.

Speaker 2 54:23

Wick.

Speaker 4 54:23

John.

Speaker 1 54:24

Wick workout.

Speaker 2 54:24

Yeah, nobody's touching my cat, though, oh no what was your cat's name again?

Speaker 1 54:30

Little Jojo, yeah, jojo, oh my God, I remember. I remember when you first got Jojo, you were telling me about it, right?

Speaker 2 54:37

How's he doing? He's good. Yeah, he's a four years old.

Speaker 1 54:40

Nice. He just chills on you.

Speaker 2 54:42

You're just he doesn't chill on me, but like so I actually uh, I like he'll sit next to me in the chair, like he's not like when I first got him super into. Like, oh, I want to be like on mo, I want to sit near mo, yeah, yeah, I remember you know, you told me about that, and then after like I don't know what happened, he's into puberty years.

Speaker 3 55:03

Um cannot stand me, yeah and like when I come home from work.

Speaker 2 55:07

He'll roll around and everything right and I'll think he'll like, want to hang out for, like the the rest night. Nope, I'll just go sit back on the chair, I'll sit next to him and then he'll be like whatever I get up, go grab some water, he's sitting in my chair, wow.

Speaker 1 55:22

That's the kind of character.

Speaker 3 55:23

Dominance, rebellion, rebellion. I love it.

Speaker 2 55:31

You're my pin now, bro know, two hours later he'll be like, yeah, I'll sit right in that spot. Puberty time, puberty time. Yeah, damn, go to sleep. He'll watch me sit on the bed Like, like you know, lay in the bed. He'll jump up on the bed, attack my feet Run. I wake up at like 2 am. You know, get some water turns out. He's right there, sleeping right next to me that's how it is, though yeah, he doesn't know how to play fetch now, really.

Speaker 2 55:59

Yeah, just the first half, though, like I'll throw something and he'll jump in the air and get it and then he'll leave it there and I have to go, that's enough, you fetch me now, yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 56:10

Well, to close this episode out. What is what is an episode? What is an episode? What is that advice you would give someone who may be in the similar shoes as you just starting, and all that yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 56:23

So like we missed like a whole big portion of, like, the medical assisted part right, yeah um so, um, you know, I was on um ozempic and then I was also on something called Kismia Q-Y-S-M-I-A. You remember that era? Because it was basically a narcotic and they would only let me take it for 30 days.

Speaker 1 56:42

Oh yeah, I remember that, because you had to get weaned off too.

Speaker 2 56:45

Yeah, because you'd basically take it and I forget what's in it, but basically the first part of it is an appetite suppressant, right, but when you have an appetite suppressant you need food to like actually keep up your energy. So the other half, I forget what it was, but man, it was just like it would get me going and like you have to take it in the mornings because if you take it any later you're not going to be able to sleep. I'd go to the gym with Austin and work out. I'd be like austin I need more yeah, I remember this.

Speaker 2 57:16

He would like me, but I am so fatigued like I would just be hyped up.

Speaker 2 57:20

You'd be wired bro like yeah, dude so only for 30 days, like all that stuff worked and so like the biggest advice, right one, work with your doctor and like figure the medications out right. If you decide you want to go like the medical way, which is how I started, it's great. But the thing that I noticed because I also hit Ozempic and I was on that for four months I only lost 30 pounds on Ozempic in that four months and the only reason why I lost no weight on Ozempic is because I had horrible discipline and I would still eat horribly Even though I had horrible discipline and I would still eat horribly. Even though I was eating less, I was still eating bad. So the other big part was I actually started the weight loss thing like in therapy, so like I made sure I was going to a therapist looking at my relationship with food and really untangling that.

Speaker 2 58:15

So before I even like because there was a break between when I was working out with Austin- and I had this break where I wasn't doing anything and then I was like I worked out with Austin again During that break. I just went to a therapist and I focused on like figuring that out. And then I figured out okay, well, let me go to a doctor and like figure out, like what my blood's like, how my glucose is doing Like, cause I was pre-diabetic at the time and moved into you know a bad place, um, with like sugar. So you know I had to be on metformin and all these other medications. So I needed to see like what my baseline was for my own health.

Speaker 2 58:58

And then I want and when I ultimately wanted to lose weight, it was okay, I want to restrict calorie like heavily, so what's the safest I can do it, and my doctor had to walk me through that, right. So it's like okay, well, like this is the lowest you can go safely. I wanted to still work out. Okay, this is what you can do while working out. This is the amount of weight that you can lose per week healthily, right? So we had to set all of these different like markers and baselines for me and I actually took um six weeks off of work.

Speaker 2 59:30

So, when I first decided like this, was it? I requested six weeks PTO and medical leave and I was like I'm not going to go to work, I'm not going to be exposed to food in the cafe, I don't want any crazy stressors to come up, I just want to focus on my weight loss. And did that. And coming back to work, I said I want to be remote as possible, like as remote as possible, so I could control the food and my intake. And when I started coming back to office, I was cooking for myself because I really wanted to be careful. Um, so, yeah, it's, it's in stages. It takes a really long time, um, but it's a mental game first, first, then it's a kitchen game second, and the working out is like a cherry on top where, like, you start working on the physicality, for me at least, um, but it was making sure I could, like, stay healthy within my calories and then go forward from there that was beautifully said amazing I appreciate you sharing all that anytime, no dude, really big process no, thank you.

Speaker 1 1:00:34

Thank you for coming on and sharing all that with us. Mo cause that people would need to hear this.

Speaker 2 1:00:38

People who are listening to it right now you don't even know, but there's gonna be someone out there who'd be like damn, I need to hear that yeah, um, I mean like for yeah, yeah, I don't, I don't know really what to say because like I was the person that needed to hear that a couple years ago, right, um, and like there's so much listening and like consuming podcasts and listening to health content and actually watching health content, like I would do that all the time, right, and you think you're healthy because you have all this knowledge, like yeah, but like dude you gotta do it, you have to do it it's like what's my first step?

Speaker 2 1:01:11

so like sometimes your first step is walking downstairs. You know, sometimes your first step is like I think for me I lived in like this block, so like it was a quarter, a quarter mile, so I would just do quarter miles once a day and then I would move from there. So, yeah, take your first step, whatever. That is Nice.

Speaker 1 1:01:31

Dude. Well, I appreciate you being so open on this episode right now. Anytime I'm very excited to release it. I'm very excited for this.

Speaker 2 1:01:39

There's one thing I forgot to say. Go say it One thing Real, say it so a big. And this is tying it back to, like my professional working thing, right? So I promised I would say this to someone else. But back when I lived in Texas right, it's when I was still heavy and eating really horrible fried food there was this movement starting in information security, because IT professionals and like computer people are just like we have this stereotype for being these bigger beardy people you know, and that's not the case.

Speaker 2 1:02:15

Like, we have all different shapes, sizes, bodies, but one very common thread is being unhealthy and sedentary. It's just a huge thing, right? So when I was first starting to, like you know, get into health, this dude in security started this trend called Red Team Fit and it was for, like, penetration testers and everything, and it wasn't a whoop. I forgot what it was, but it was a bracelet, whatever. The first gen was in like 2016, 2017. But, like, that was like the first thing that I saw.

Speaker 2 1:02:44

So, like, if you're an information security, like, please, like, stay healthy. Like we don't need to carry around the bad stereotype at all. Like we, we, we are fit nerds. We are like, no matter where you are. So, like you know, and and it's all about longevity too right, yes, I'm gonna say this for everybody who works in tech in the bay area. Right, I know you make a bag, I know you do. I'm looking right at you. You want longevity for your family. You want to be able to do good things for the world. Like you, you need you need to be healthy to do that and, um, I mean just like losing the weight. Like the big thing for me wasn't just being able to, uh like, wear smaller clothes.

Speaker 2 1:03:26

Um, I live in a place with stairs and like walking up the stairs is so crazy but I didn't know how like hard stairs were until, like, I had to walk stairs. Like stairs are easy walking and having conversations, walking one-on-ones with um people that I work with is so much better and it's a much easier experience, um, and just being able to do these small things, you know, even walking, meeting, the meeting like, and just being able to have that ease, knowing that like, um, my, you know, as a, as a black male, we have, um, there's like this, uh, like we have a higher risk for cardiovascular disease right knowing that I've like decreased my chance of cardiovascular disease by almost 30 because of the amount of weight that I lost is like crazy.

Speaker 3 1:04:13

Right.

Inclusive Fitness Message and Inspiration

Speaker 2 1:04:14

So like Bay Area folks that are in tech, that like are heavy, that like, please, like you have the resources, you have the time. A lot of people don't just do it, you know. And if you don't have like all the resources and stuff, there's still things like like this is not like a gate kept, like thing Like fitness is not gate kept. Like you can find a way anyway, dude, hell yeah, dude.

Speaker 3 1:04:37

That's amazing, inspiring.

Speaker 1 1:04:38

Thank you, red team fit Red team fit. I love the message you can bury it, you make it, the bag Make it last long. Yeah, health is wealth, baby. Well, this is coach Austin, with Kevin Moe and Gabe for this latest episode for the Nerd Out Workout Podcast, where we nerd out, work out and podcast and we will see you guys later. Bye.