Finding Your Swing: Matt Wong's Journey Through Bay Area Golf Courses

When Matt Wong started filming golf content with just his iPhone during the pandemic, he couldn't have imagined where his "last creative hurrah" would lead. As the creator behind Golf Perfection, Matt has built a following through authentic course vlogs that showcase both the beauty and challenges of Bay Area golf.

During our conversation, Matt reveals the behind-the-scenes techniques he's developed to film quality golf content without disrupting play or annoying fellow golfers. From specialized lightweight equipment to strategic filming approaches, his methods allow him to capture every shot while still maintaining the pace and etiquette that makes golf special. This balancing act between content creation and golf tradition highlights why his videos resonate with viewers seeking realistic course previews rather than staged challenges.

For beginner and mid-handicap golfers, Matt offers refreshingly practical advice that contrasts with typical instruction. Rather than obsessing over perfect technique, he advocates understanding your current swing tendencies and using that knowledge strategically on the course. "Play your slice instead of fixing it" becomes a mantra for enjoying the game while gradually improving. This course management philosophy—knowing what your shots typically do rather than what they should do—provides immediate scoring benefits without requiring dramatic swing changes.

We also explore golf's evolution through formats like TGL (The Golf League), which brings team-based competition to indoor stadium environments, and discuss predictions for upcoming tournaments. Matt's journey reveals how authentic content can find its audience even in crowded digital spaces, and how the intersection of technology and tradition continues to shape golf's future.

Whether you're looking to improve your game, create better golf content, or simply enjoy stories from someone who's found their niche in the golfing world, this episode delivers insights that will enhance your appreciation of this challenging and rewarding sport.

Transcript

Meeting Matt Wong of Golf Perfection

Speaker 1 0:00

For someone who's a beginner golfer what are? Your top three recommendations of a golf course that they should go at, try and get into it.

Speaker 3 0:06

To get into it. I mean honestly, it's like you should find.

Speaker 1 0:13

What is up, everyone? It's Coach Austin here with your Nerd Out and Workout Podcast, where we nerd out workout and podcast With my co-host, kevin Arab-Arabagon. What's up, what's up, and we are joined today by Coach Phillip, one of our strength coaches at Hyper Strength and Conditioning and our guest of honor today. Golf Perfection Matt. Thank you?

Speaker 3 0:36

What's your last name? Man Wong.

Speaker 1 0:38

Matt Wong of Golf Perfection. You can find him on YouTube. That's how we found him. Oh yeah, and he is an avid golfer. Professional golfer did won a lot of championships.

Speaker 3 0:49

Uh-huh Yep, best of the best, best of the best.

Speaker 1 0:52

When Kevin and I started our golf journey, you know, you kind of do that thing where you go on YouTube and you start watching the things that you're into and, matt, you're actually one of the videos we saw and we started following you and you do such a great layout and flow of like you follow yourself going through these courses and you review them and you actually do the the tee off and then the respective shots after that. But yeah, we've been watching you for a while and we were so into it and then we were like dude, we gotta ask you to come on at least because we want to do at least one golf podcast this year. And we were so into it and then we were like dude, we got to ask you to come on at least because we want to do at least one golf podcast this year.

Speaker 1 1:27

All right I wanted you to be on it.

Speaker 3 1:29

I'm honored. I'm honored. Yeah, I'm the one golf podcast for the year.

Speaker 2 1:33

Very nice, that's it.

Speaker 3 1:35

That's it, no one else.

Speaker 4 1:38

I think what I love so much about too. It's like it feels very authentic because when it comes, with youtube golf now with like good, good and bob does, bob does sports. It's all about who they're collaborating and what's the challenge and it's not just about the golf anymore. You know well your channel. It's very like oh man, I hooked it, I did this and that, but it's very, very authentic and I love it, man, and plus bay area baby. So yeah, represent represent bay area.

The Origins of Golf Perfection YouTube Channel

Speaker 3 2:04

I mean, that's like how people usually find me, is they just Google a course or they want to scout a course, and then people who will run into me is like, hey, you know, I watched this video of yours, it helped me out. It's like, oh, that's cool. You know, that's how organically people find me, which is cool. But I agree, yeah, like right, spaces in an interesting, you know, I guess, era where it's just a lot of collaborations to kind of boost the numbers, right, because it's kind of getting saturated and um, yeah, it's getting a little stale. Even my stuff, you know. I mean like it's, it's tough, but in order to keep the numbers up, you're just combining your fandoms to boost up the numbers. So that's kind of how it's been. But I digress, yeah how did you start?

Speaker 1 2:42

what? What spurred you to make Golf Perfection?

Speaker 3 2:45

So like origin story, just to keep it real brief, I used to work for Adobe back in the day. So I got the Premiere Suite for free. So I used to, yeah, super nice, right, Free. And you know, yeah, I know it's just so expensive with subscriptions. But you know I was editing car content. You know I was editing car content. You know I had like a little Fiesta ST manual hot hatch that I would track and stuff, and I have a friend that's also in the car YouTube world.

Speaker 3 3:11

But I didn't do, I only did it for fun. So I kept things that was like my creative outlet. But once I left, Adobe stopped paying for Premiere. I kind of like stopped doing that. But then pandemic had you know know, came around, started getting back into golf, and then I was kind of obsessed with the iphone and its video capability. So like kind of, my wife helped me. You know, split an iphone cost for like christmas or something with like the biggest one possible like iphone 12 pro max, right, and so she got me that. I was like, okay, this is going to be my last attempt to try something as a creative person. Got the iPhone 12 Pro Max for Christmas, Started filming. Everything from the beginning was off my phone. I recorded off my phone, edited on my phone with the iMovie app.

Speaker 3 3:58

It's not optimal, but it was the camera on the iPhone For mobiles it's probably the best. Not fun, it's not optimal, but it was. The camera on the iPhones for mobiles is probably like the best in my opinion. So it was really just a like a last hurrah to keep something up with a creative outlet and then it kind of just I wouldn't even say take off, it was just something I do in my spare time for fun that I really enjoy. Yeah, yeah, so that's kind of how it started was just, like you know, was always into the creative content scene, like in terms of making stuff, but then kind of like a last hurrah, last ditch effort to do something creative after, you know, I invested in a phone but I spent a lot more money on equipment now. But, yeah, that was kind of like the last ditch effort to keep it creative and now it's a lot more than I could have ever imagined.

Speaker 1 4:40

So, yeah, Dude, and how's it been growing so far?

Speaker 3 4:45

I mean it's modest growth. I mean it's like at 5 000 subscribers, just past that threshold earlier this year. Um, I don't, I you know, and it's, it's the worst, because we're in a society now and I don't want to get too deep into this but where a lot of numbers are put to, not not your worth, but you're mentally always looking at your numbers. Oh dude, and like I try not to focus on that, there's like an app that you can check your stats and I'm sure for Instagram or TikTok, there's all those numbers, right, oh bro. But you know it's been growing at a modest rate. I wish it was bigger, but I'm not dwelling on that too much because it's not my full time gig, right, it's just a part time gig, but I'd say the growth. I wish it was more, but I'm happy where it's at oh, that's good.

Speaker 1 5:31

What inspired you to do the whole layout of how you just record yourself going through the course? Was it something you're just like? Oh, I need to record myself every hit I make, and all that because the course reviews are. That's actually what helps us.

Speaker 3 5:46

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 5:46

We're like looking at the courses. I'm like, oh, what did Matt play here? Yeah, and then it's like oh, he's actually okay, this hole, that hole, like yeah, what inspired you that?

Speaker 3 5:56

Kind of like the OG people, so like there was like golf holics back in the day. So I'm bringing up some older, older YouTubers for sure, and like even good, good right, just what they're doing on the course. It was in their heyday. It was kind of fun because it really felt like they were us. There was just these kids on the course having fun, you know recording, and you know trying not to disturb the people behind them but just keep playing and just doing their thing. So I kind of want to do a similar format where I was just recording myself on the course keeping pace. And also kyle berkshire he was also in that good, good mix way back in the day, but he kind of went on his own and did course vlogs as well. So his course vlogs are probably mostly the mirror, like mine, but he obviously hits it a ton like we're not the same but his layout with you, the voiceover, the shot tracers and the layout was kind of I was I got inspired by him pretty much. Yeah.

Speaker 4 6:49

Yeah.

Speaker 3 6:49

I mean and then normally just you I was just trying to make the best of what footage I captured. You know, like it wasn't like really I was taking well, taking bits and pieces from everyone else, but like and produce with my on-course content that I capture right, because that's half of content is like capturing as much as possible and then making the best of what you do. So I know you do the same thing, right, you record something and like okay, I'm going to take this, what can I make out of this? Repurpose it for reels, tiktok you know long form and everything, so it's the same thing with the golf stuff.

Speaker 2 7:21

Yeah, it's just, you can always make something out of something, but if you have nothing, you can't make anything out of it.

Speaker 4 7:26

Yeah the base footage.

Speaker 2 7:28

You're just trying to record and everything You're like I'll just do it again. Let me just get another one just in case.

Speaker 3 7:34

Yeah, yeah yeah, so yeah, no, it's been good, but it's definitely a skill, you know, like recording yourself on the course or just you know capturing footage in general. I'm sure you can relate like that's why I'm hesitant to say, oh yeah, everyone can do it right, but the worse you are at golf, the more shots you have to capture and the longer it takes to edit. So you see all these really good people and they have like the shot counter only goes to four. I'm like bro, I'm hitting more than four every hole like you know it's true.

Speaker 1 8:04

Huh, it's like one goes to four.

Speaker 3 8:05

I'm like bro, I'm hitting more than four every hole, it's true.

Speaker 2 8:07

huh, it's like one of four. I'm so off the greener. I'm not even on the green yet.

Speaker 3 8:12

Yeah, exactly yeah go ahead?

Speaker 4 8:13

When you're playing 18 and you're filming yourself, how much time does it add to your course time?

Speaker 3 8:20

No, that's a good question. Honestly, I probably play faster when I'm recording or I play the same pace. So I've gotten fast enough where it's just like boom, set it up and record, then take it down and then go to my next shot. So I don't think a lot of people when people play or the people behind me, because we all pay the same tee time. We're sharing the course together, right Like I, that's the last thing I want to do is be that guy where you see the influencers in the wild type of deal on the course.

Speaker 2 8:53

Yeah, yeah.

Filming Golf Content on Course

Speaker 3 8:54

That's it kind of like. It kind of disheartens me sometimes is like dang. You know, I that impression of me. I don't want to be that guy, you know, because like older Marshalls, like the old stuffy guys, they see my camera like, oh, you're being too slow. I'm like bro, I'm playing with pace. Prune Ridge.

Speaker 4 9:09

I'm fast, baby Prune Ridge, you know. Oh yeah, Prune Ridge, prune Ridge, hate me, hating Really.

Speaker 3 9:22

I set up and I got.

Speaker 1 9:23

The people have been complaining that you you're taking too long and I'm like I'm sorry everyone pretty much takes a long time.

Speaker 3 9:28

This is my first shot.

Speaker 1 9:30

The people in front of us are.

Speaker 4 9:32

It's okay, I'll take it down you know what's funny when we started like really getting hype, you know, we kind of sunk in and like we're like, oh yeah, let's do it, man, let's do the videos, let's do the Instagram, and then every time Austin would be like can you get me?

Speaker 1 9:47

Dude, it's… I don't know how you do it. I don't know, like, because you got to get the tripod, what's your setup? Like, do you do the tripod?

Speaker 2 9:52

I want to know that too, yeah the camera.

Speaker 1 9:54

How do you make it?

Speaker 3 9:55

fast. So like I have like down, but mine is like it goes down to a monopod and then has three like prongs from the base, so it's really light and mobile. Um, and so like it's not the footprint of it, it's really small, it's only like, like you know, like a 25 pounder footprint. Yeah, right, like that. And then it's easy to take it in out of the cart too, right. So if that's the cart setup, but if I'm doing it in my uh push cart there's an umbrella holder and I have a mini tripod. I just shove it into the mini tripod. So I set up my push cart, have a ball head, tighten it, frame the shot, hit record, then hit the shot and then come back to my push cart and just push myself along. Yeah, so it's like learned over time how to optimally capture the footage and be super fast, so practice with that too.

Speaker 3 10:46

Yeah, you practice with that I mean it's just fast, I go really fast, yeah, and it and like, honestly, it adds strokes to the score. But I mean, like, luckily, I started at a place where, like you know, I was just like an average golfer and so it helps that I'm not, like you know, I hit a chunk it into the sand trap, you know, and then I take four shots. Well, sometimes I do, but like being a little bit better at golf does help in terms of when, if you're trying to shoot your own content out there.

Speaker 4 11:14

That makes sense. Yeah yeah, we were just young pups topping, chunking and throwing clubs around.

Speaker 1 11:20

We always took the tee times when it was raining. Oh yeah, we were the first guys, when it was raining at South Z municipal.

Speaker 2 11:25

I don't want anyone near me. I don't want anyone. I was like I'll take the shit times I'll take the shit times, but that's good.

Speaker 3 11:32

You identified the trade-offs Like in the Bay Area, like we don't get the luxury of some of it's. Like you're going to be paired up for sure with other people. There's going to be everyone booked behind you. You know there's no like empty courses for you to go ahead and shoot content. So that's why I learned just to keep the pace. You know, I don't want any contention on me. I don't ask golf courses for permission, I just do it. But no one says anything about me, so it doesn't matter. Yeah.

Speaker 1 12:05

Oh, so that's how it works.

Speaker 3 12:05

I never knew how that works on that side, like they would actually ask the golf course to, just so I think, like big creators now, like the big channels, they just probably book out everything behind them, or yeah, yeah. So I mean they have it in the funds just to do it, I'm sure. Or they know how to play quickly as well. Um, but yeah, that's, I mean we don't. I mean, as a small guy, I don't have that luxury. I'm not booking 20 tee times behind me.

Speaker 4 12:28

Yeah, you don't got three guys filming for you too, so, yeah, it's a lot more challenging, isn't it?

Speaker 2 12:33

also like the amount of golf courses. I think we have a lot, but in like I know Good, good, they started in the Midwest right, that's where they. I feel like there's like the the amount of golf courses there was. It's like it's all spread out the amount of players, but here like there's only like there's like really good courses yeah, like good courses where, yeah, especially within, like a 5-10 mile radius.

Speaker 3 12:52

Yeah right right, yeah, so yeah, they. That's kind of where they got into more of the personality being the focus rather than the course, because they were playing the same course over and over again. I've played a ton of courses and just recently I've been playing the same course, but yeah, so, yeah, that's. What's cool about golf content is that there's so many different I mean all content. There's just so much out there that there's so many niches that you can find. It's just finding your niche and then, like you know, trying to execute well within in that space, kind of thing. So yeah.

Speaker 1 13:22

I saw that you went to P4L, yeah, to do the golf performance. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 13:28

How was it? It was pretty cool. I'm curious. So, if I'm being honest, like and this is like a hot take, I guess, like I think for golf, in terms of fitness, even the pros like, once they're a certain physique, they focus more on their technique rather than getting their body into a certain state. I think they, like, they work out to keep their current state, to continue doing what they can do, but unless bryson's, the outlier, where he made himself huge to try to hit the ball a ton.

Speaker 3 13:59

But all these guys, they're not like trying to make more gains because they already hit the ball far, yeah right, they're not trying to bulk up or anything, they're just trying to maintain. So when it comes to mid handicaps, it's like, what are we trying to do here? You know, like, like is there actual gains to be made? You know, for your golf swing and I think there is some some pros like, with, like flexibility, and you know health like and like injury, but in terms of trying to gain something physically, I think you're better off practicing technique rather than you know working out a ton to achieve some sort of body type no, I like that.

Speaker 1 14:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah and so, yeah, I took lessons from um golf garage, matt yeah, yeah, yeah yeah matt too, and um, I just remember when I was just trying to just like you know, I'm a beginner, so I'm trying to like hack it away oh, I mean, and you're a strong guy, yeah, yeah yeah, I, he's like dude, you're swinging from up here.

Speaker 1 14:51

You gotta use all your weight here like a catapult and I'm like what he's like? You're like you're. You're like he's like no, no, like you're a, you're like a dense dude. So use that weight. It It'll just happen. And I'm like, unless I thought about it, of just swinging and all of a sudden just start hitting. I'm like oh. I didn't know that. I thought you just just threw the shit out of it, right.

Speaker 3 15:17

So bringing it back to perform for life. I think what they're doing, though, is important, because they're getting kids that are young and then trying to build up the muscles that maybe they don't build up in a normal, just day-to-day situation, to prevent injury and maybe trying to develop them in a way to where they hit that optimal stage. But for us, I don't know, I'm not convinced. I'm going to there all the time to improve my game in terms from a physical standpoint Just me personally.

Speaker 1 15:44

No, that's good, Because I saw that and I took a seminar a long time ago. It was like a fitness business conference a long time ago and the owners were there too and I already knew they do great things over there. So then when I saw they were going to the golf side, I was like I want that Well because they got that's like the protease. No, it's not a cheap machine and they had you like doing all this stuff on it. And I'm like, oh see, I see I got curious, how much is that?

Speaker 3 16:13

Like can we use it? Or how did that feel using? I haven't used it. It was pretty cool. Um, I would. I would say I'm like polish. I mean I'm not like the strongest by. I'd like probably strong, stronger than average golfer. But I haven't lifted a lot of weights in a long time. I just do more cardio. But yeah, it felt pretty normal. But like when we did the percentile thingies, I was like already in the upper percentile in terms of the people on there. But then it like measured me against like athletes in my weight range and I'm like lower percentile. Yeah, because, like you know, 260, right. And like I'm like when you measure me against other 260 guys, they're like six something and like these big old yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 16:47

I'm just like this guy you know like, who used to work out a ton of weights, but like, but in terms of the people that were on that machine specifically testing, I was like in the upper percentile, right, but it was like weird, it was kind of unnatural. You know, the Proteus machine, yeah, like they had this one where you just like go in and not like this and like I feel like I was trying so hard and I threw out my arm, didn't actually do it, but I was like, oh man, my arm afterwards. But yeah, I did the fitness. They give you a handicap, like in terms of like where you stand from a fitness perspective and I did just okay, like maybe average, a little less than average of what they thought an ideal golfer body would be. And it identified where I could improve, like so core, hip flexors, right, you know, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 17:35

So it kind of just told me things I knew confirmed it yeah, but whether or not, if I were to pick up like a private training session with them, if it would help me I'm not I'm sure it would but for mid-handicap I think I'm better off practicing my swing, actually practicing my swing, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think that program is good for, like professionals or the people who are in competitive golf that want to get that extra. Like how we're talking about you, give that, how are we talking about you, get the extra couple percents more out of their game.

Speaker 1 18:03

Just squeezing everything out. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 3 18:09

Or it's helpful if sometimes they get a lot of older people who probably don't ever work out like at all. That's true, and they, if you're older, you know you have a lot of gains to make just from going from no type of physical training. I'm sure you see it in your gym. Yes, right, if you get people who are coming in having lifted a barbell in their life and then they start getting into it and then they unlock another tier.

Speaker 4 18:29

Yeah, I'm sure they can relate. Yeah, yeah, hey, some of those guys that were Dude, I just started binging that yeah it was good.

Speaker 3 18:36

I need to watch it.

Speaker 4 18:38

I need to it's life changing.

Speaker 1 18:41

So we were golfing to prepare for this episode, we actually did an 18 like a few days ago. Oh nice, nice and he was like have you watched solo leveling yet? And I'm like no, I haven't yet. And he's like you gotta watch it. And I was like eh and the last night. I just started watching it, and then I haven't stopped.

Speaker 4 18:57

It's so funny because Austin's saying how he loves use all his power in his golf swing.

Speaker 2 19:03

When we were always taking videos he's like 100% cowling my hero guy and then he would rip it and we're just like what are you doing?

Speaker 3 19:15

My hero Did you watch Rising Impact.

Speaker 4 19:17

Oh yeah, rising Impact, have you seen?

Speaker 3 19:19

Rising Impact. I haven't watched it yet.

Speaker 4 19:22

It's a fun anime. In terms of golf, it's not serious, it's just for fun. Don't take it like oh man, you might learn something. You're going to just learn that these guys, they hit the ball into the wind and the wind's going to carry it From what I've heard, every golfer has a power.

Speaker 1 19:38

They all have their power. Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 19:40

It's like an anime.

Speaker 4 19:41

There's a guy who, like, if it's within 150 yards, he holds it out.

Speaker 2 19:44

It's hold it's hold.

Speaker 1 19:47

It's good, yeah. And then there's one guy who could just read the greens.

Speaker 4 19:50

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 19:52

It's kind of like Kuroko's no basketball yeah.

Speaker 1 19:56

The other one was like he could control the wind yeah.

Speaker 4 20:03

Based on read the wind lines.

Speaker 2 20:05

Read the wind lines and the ball and he'll like ride the wind and it'll just. It just falls.

Speaker 4 20:09

It's insane bro. All right, yeah, I can't wait for next season Can't wait either.

Speaker 2 20:21

All serious though, I can get through it.

Speaker 4 20:23

There's like there's 24 episodes, but I think they're only 30 minutes each. Yeah, two seasons out, right, two seasons and it's something you can put in the background, so it's not too bad?

Speaker 3 20:31

Yeah For sure, if you had an ability as a golfer, if you had if that was the conversation come up and I feel like two putting from anywhere would be insane like if you're on the green just a two putt from anywhere on the green.

Speaker 4 20:46

That'd be insane yeah, that's always like when we were playing. We always play scramble because we're not oh yeah, scramble's great and our always. Our first rule is always like no three, putting no matter what we're not three putting today, we're only two putting and you know, recently it's been working out for us. You know we've been playing, so yeah, I don't take putting seriously, they get held up. We're like all right, austin, give us a line.

Speaker 4 21:09

Give us a read he's all like sideways and we're always like you know the day he makes it. We're going to like eat our words you know, but like it hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 1 21:18

No, sometimes I put better like that Is that the new technique?

Speaker 3 21:23

I mean it's like a one-handed or something Literally like he's like sideways.

Speaker 1 21:27

I stand, oh, okay, I put my toes at the hole and I just kind of hit it.

Speaker 2 21:31

Bryson kind of did that for a little bit.

Speaker 4 21:33

He hit the front of the court, but yeah.

Speaker 1 21:35

So I'm trying to make it a thing.

Speaker 4 21:40

Yeah, you never know.

Speaker 3 21:40

Someone in a major wins like that.

Speaker 1 21:42

I'm just saying you never know. But if I had the power I just want power Let me just drive it out of the tee box 500 yards. Call it a day, hey man.

Speaker 4 21:50

You're going to miss the hole.

Speaker 3 21:52

That's what a lot of the youth nowadays is doing Really it's hitting the ball as far as possible. They're like screw hazards or you know rough. Just get it as close to the green as possible or get it as far down as possible and deal with the deal with the outcome.

Speaker 2 22:09

We were literally talking about the players earlier with like. Minwoo and Akshay. Like there's so much hazards on that course, but the the way they were able to kind of just avoid all of it and they're like some of the longest hitters, they're like small dudes too yeah, but they're able to like use all of like their flexibility and kind of like go through and generate so much speed right, right, right.

Speaker 2 22:31

It's like like you said, like they're with two of the younger ones, like they're it's just avoiding all of that, like it's just if I can get far enough, I don't got to worry about anything yeah, like what's like one fifth or 160 in the fairway or like 20 yards by the green.

Speaker 4 22:44

Right right right.

Pokemon Card Opening Break

Speaker 3 22:45

Your proximity on your next shot is going to be so much closer if you just chip it on versus trying to hit like a 150-yard shot, you know kind of thing. So not to say that's like a huge general sweeping, you know a huge sweeping generalization, but a lot of people are just getting that distance yeah. You know it's crazy, the distance revolution, as they say.

Speaker 4 23:03

I told you 100% Cowling bro 100% Cowling Kev.

Speaker 1 23:08

You got something for Matt.

Speaker 4 23:09

Oh, dude. So you know when Austin was like, oh, we're going to have Matt on, like no way. So we did a little dive and I know you're into the Pokemon. Oh gosh, so we brought some packs for all of us.

Speaker 3 23:22

Oh shoot, okay, let's go.

Speaker 4 23:25

So we're all going to get one pack here, okay, prismatic Evolution. Oh, shoot One of the hottest sets out right now. Thank you for the.

Speaker 2 23:32

God pack, yeah, appreciate it oh, dude. If we got that, that's I'm so new to this?

Speaker 3 23:37

I don't know Every.

Speaker 1 23:38

TikTok Dude I'm just going to open it and reveal it.

Speaker 4 23:46

You can do that if you like. It's up to you. So if you don't want to reveal, so you take the last card and put it in the front. So we got the last card put in the front. If we pull an Umbreon, I'm never, done this.

Speaker 2 23:59

We'll have to figure out. I don't know what we're going to do so, if you guys.

Speaker 4 24:02

I don't know what we're going to do.

Speaker 3 24:04

Yeah, so if you guys, I don't know where I'm- not looking at these cards right now, but so the card that's on top you put in the front right.

Speaker 4 24:13

Yeah, yeah, the back card, that's going to be the energy. This card the live.

Speaker 3 24:16

No, no, no, the one actually put that one on the front.

Speaker 4 24:20

Vaporeon Pokeball. Okay, that's good for us. I see something sparkly behind yours.

Speaker 3 24:26

Oh really, Are you being serious?

Speaker 4 24:27

I'm not being serious, I saw something sparkly.

Speaker 3 24:29

Like that's not the energy.

Speaker 2 24:32

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 24:33

So just keep pulling them. I just got a little holo, not too bad.

Speaker 3 24:37

Okay.

Speaker 4 24:38

Golding yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you got? I'll see.

Speaker 3 24:42

Okay, Applin.

Speaker 4 24:42

Okay, applin.

Speaker 3 24:44

All these ones are just whatever, right. Yeah, these are like the commons it's always the end, sneasel, sneasel. Where's the camera? Right?

Speaker 4 24:49

there, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 24:50

Hoot Hoot.

Speaker 4 24:51

Hoot, hoot, that's a good one.

Speaker 3 24:53

All right.

Speaker 4 24:54

Kieran oh trainer okay, okay, I think it's after this one.

Speaker 3 25:03

Kevin, let me know.

Speaker 4 25:04

I think we're going, we're getting there. Oh okay, keep going, pull it down, there's something, there's something. Okay, that's our first reverse holo. Okay, reverse, reverse there should be one more reverse before our final okay, it's an item, so it's not gonna be that okay, alright, now this is the big card. Here I saw something a little spark.

Speaker 3 25:20

It's. I think it's just a hollow.

Speaker 4 25:22

Is it just a hollow?

Speaker 3 25:23

Yeah.

Speaker 4 25:24

Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 25:25

A dust snore. Okay, okay, I swear, I saw something sparkly.

Speaker 4 25:29

What'd you get? Austin, did you get anything?

Speaker 1 25:30

good, I don't know what the fuck I got.

Speaker 2 25:32

I'm still in the Charizard era bro. He's like bending a. Really no, this is cool. What'd you end up pulling? Did you pull anything?

Speaker 4 25:38

good, not yet, not yet. Hold on hold on.

Speaker 1 25:40

Mark Caludon.

Speaker 2 25:42

Where am I going? Where am I going, dang?

Speaker 1 25:44

I don't even know, doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 25:45

I was kidding, it's not like a secret rare.

Speaker 4 25:47

Yeah, a secret, rare Illustration, rare yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 25:50

Yeah, so I got a Fluttermane, a Fluttermane, ah, so nope we didn't get any big, big hits.

Speaker 4 25:58

No, that's cool, that's thoughtful, but shout out to our boy, mr John Paul Limpin, aka the JPL Collective. He graciously gave us the cards, these packs, for us to open today, and I always said, if he doesn't have it, no one has it.

Speaker 3 26:13

Oh.

Speaker 4 26:14

Thank you, jp. No one has it. Oh, thank you JP thank you, thank you so this is what is this it's a Pokemon.

Speaker 1 26:18

I know that it's like a building right. I'm so you know you ever hear this?

Speaker 4 26:22

the? The fan theory about Pokemon that the when Ash was like electrocuted, that he fell into a coma yeah yeah, and that's why the 151 is like normal Pokemon, but as it gets later generations they get weirder and weirder because his brain's deteriorating in a coma so it's getting weirder and weirder, like the chandelier one yeah, you know the

Speaker 4 26:45

ice cream one well, the one that looks like a building yeah, he's just coming up with stuff like for his memory, so that's a fun theory. But you know, yeah, man, we just something fun. You know, hopefully I would've been sick if it would've been pulled a number on yeah yeah yeah, but you know I'm still on that Charizard.

Speaker 1 27:01

Yeah, I know, man, everyone's still on the Charizard, charizard still no sleeves, just in case.

Speaker 2 27:03

No sleeves I got sleeves, bro.

Speaker 4 27:05

You had sleeves in there. Come on, man.

Speaker 1 27:10

I got sleeves, I got tie. They still play, they still play.

Speaker 3 27:13

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 27:13

It's strong, it's still going strong. I think the next World Championship's in Tokyo.

Speaker 2 27:16

Actually, I think it's getting a wave of strong right now.

Speaker 4 27:20

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 27:21

With the TCG coming out like the mobile one. Yeah, the mobile, yeah people got back into it and people started opening more packs, yeah you know, when Pokemon's hot. The target section is empty, always empty.

Speaker 4 27:35

The new thing they're doing in Safeway is they have all the Pokemon machines there's one across the street. I almost went before the show, but I didn't want to be late. They're always usually empty. Yeah, man Cool.

Speaker 3 27:50

Pokemon's the only one where the collector base is just as big way bigger than the playing base.

Speaker 4 27:56

All the other.

Speaker 3 27:56

TCGs the playing base is bigger. Big, if like way bigger than the playing base. Yeah, all the other TCGs, like the playing base is bigger, except for maybe One Piece.

Speaker 4 28:01

One.

Speaker 2 28:01

Piece is huge.

Speaker 4 28:03

One Piece has cards. Yeah, it's huge.

Speaker 3 28:06

Now we're getting a little like into my nerdism.

Speaker 4 28:09

No you know the name of the podcast.

Speaker 2 28:11

It's where we nerd out. We're kind of a podcast.

Speaker 4 28:13

That's what we do. I used to collect Dragon Ball Z cards, work out a podcast, that's what we do.

Speaker 1 28:15

I used to collect Dragon Ball Z cards.

Speaker 4 28:16

That's what I used to do way back when they came out with one, too, they came out with a new, like a whole new thing now with Dragon Ball, with, like you know, of course it has their own market, you know what I mean. And it's not as big as One Piece, because One Piece is huge right now they might have Demon Slayer it.

Speaker 3 28:32

So yeah, bandai is taking all their IPs right now and like trying to make different games out of them. So they just came out with a Gundam one. Yeah, there's a Dragon Ball one that just came out, but then there's like a catch-all game called Charles Weiss or whatever, and then that has like literally every single anime.

Speaker 4 28:48

Yeah, yeah yeah, but anyways yeah, it is what you like, you know so.

Speaker 1 28:56

I think half of the trainers are collecting Pokemon cards at the gym Just on the mobile.

Speaker 3 29:01

Oh sure.

Speaker 2 29:02

I didn't get into that.

Speaker 3 29:04

I went into Lorkana before that so. I actually played like a lot of Lorkana.

Speaker 4 29:10

Steamboat Mickey. Isn't that like the biggest card in the set?

Speaker 3 29:12

Well, that's like non -Lorkana, that's like another set. I think that's the Charles Swat. It could be something else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, we don't have to dive into that.

Speaker 4 29:21

But that's another hobby.

Speaker 2 29:23

That's another rabbit hole. That's another hobby Another rabbit hole. It's like they're learning too much.

Speaker 3 29:28

They're learning too much.

Matt's Golf Journey and Philosophy

Speaker 1 29:31

What are your? Okay, you've been golfing around the Bay Area. For someone who's a beginner golfer, what are your top three recommendations of a golf course that they should go at? Try and get into it.

Speaker 3 29:45

To get into it. I mean, honestly, it's like you should find, you know, like a good exec, I think. First Because, like executive course, where, like you can, it's kind of expected that you know you're kind of learning. So, like any executive course, I think, is a good start. And then, once you get to a place where you can play within pace, you know you're not holding things back, then graduate to a 18 hole course, you know what's an executive course?

Speaker 3 30:12

so executive course is more like a nine hole course. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, so it has like mostly par three spend like shorter par force.

Speaker 1 30:20

Rancho.

Speaker 3 30:20

Yeah, yeah, rancho to Pablo, there's one called Mission Hills. That's just up the street. I actually went to Mission Hills before this just to check it out. It's a nine holer mostly part I play like garbage but yeah, so like if you start on those and not saying this is the path. Anyone's path to the golf course, you know, can be wildly different, but that's just a good suggestion if you're not sure about it. You know, because everyone starts from the range and you get hooked and then you're like okay, but you know the course is scary yeah, right you pay right, you pay your money like okay, I'm on the first tee, yeah, you just like everyone's watching.

Speaker 2 30:53

You got paired up the first time too.

Speaker 4 30:54

Yeah, and you're paired up With strangers and so, and you're right in front Of the clubhouse too, so like yeah, they're like watching You're up.

Speaker 2 31:01

They're saying your name Up at the tea box.

Speaker 4 31:04

And then you just Shank it right.

Speaker 3 31:05

You're like so that's why it's good If you do it in a group. You know if you have Other people that you can. You know tea time, Especially in the Bay Area, where you're going to get paired to at least four people. You know, if you have a group of four like my friend who got into it, you know we kind of like babied him all the way to where he is now, but we had a full group always and then we kind of told him how to get along or whatever. So he kind of went straight from the range to the San Jose Muni. I think San Jose Muni is a really good course actually I like that course yeah it's just it plays a little slow sometimes, yeah, but that's expected for a Muni, right?

Speaker 3 31:46

But yeah, that's you know. I think once you start getting it and if you can advance the ball like 150 consistently within a spray pattern, like consistently going forward where you're not chunking it and trying to take multiple shots that go not very far, then I think you're ready to go to a regular 18-hole course kind of thing.

Speaker 1 32:06

So we shouldn't have gone to San Jose Municipal that fast.

Speaker 3 32:10

That's why I said everyone's pass different.

Speaker 4 32:12

And shout out to our buddy, angelo Mangi, who's probably been banned from San Jose Because we always put his name down as our fourth, but he doesn't show up.

Speaker 3 32:22

Sorry, Angelo, our guy didn't show up Sorry dude.

Speaker 1 32:28

This Angelo guy.

Speaker 4 32:29

he always knows I'm sorry, I think San Jose Muni is the 18 hole we've played, the most you know. So we have a lot of memories and a lot of triumphs, and yeah sure, but you know, yeah, we, yeah, I mean that's a great course it's a solid course.

Speaker 3 32:49

It's just the only thing is it just lacks elevation, but in terms of the layout it's interesting you know?

Speaker 4 32:54

yeah, but in terms of the layout it's interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 32:56

Like we were talking last Tuesday, it was very slow, yeah yeah, I mean it comes with the Muni territory right and, like the Bay Area golf in general, it's going to be slow. I'm surprised, like on a weekday probably not as much, but on the weekends it's like at least four and a half hours. This was going to six. Yeah, sure, sure, sure.

Speaker 4 33:15

We had to stop at 15 after 15, because we were going on four hours and he had to get home and we were just like. My wife was going to kill me.

Speaker 1 33:23

Yeah sure, I'm like let's get out of here, let's move, I'm down, it's fine.

Speaker 4 33:26

And the sucky part was probably the best we were playing ever.

Speaker 2 33:33

We were but yeah, we get it, but the score is lower. You know, you take that score from 15, that's your 18 score exactly that day you played golf and you shot, we were averaging a bogey.

Speaker 4 33:41

We were averaging a bogey a whole, so we'll get a bogey. We'll get a bogey.

Speaker 1 33:47

I don't count the first three, that's fair yeah, but yeah man, I start counting on the fairway. No, that's good. I also wanted to bring up McDonald High School. We're doing a fundraiser at Mountain View Golf Leagues.

Speaker 2 34:06

Shoreline.

Speaker 3 34:07

Shoreline or Moffitt.

Speaker 4 34:09

I think it's Moffitt. You said Moffitt.

Speaker 3 34:10

Moffitt's the one by NASA, shoreline is the one by Shoreline.

Speaker 1 34:15

Mountain View. It says Mountain View, Shoreline. I think it was Shoreline.

Speaker 4 34:18

Now I'm going to double check my thing, figure it out.

Speaker 1 34:23

No, I want to check it now. I don't want to be wrong.

Speaker 4 34:24

Double check. We don't want to steer the audience the wrong way.

Speaker 1 34:28

But we're doing a golf fundraiser for our athletics program. We are a new high school in Santa Clara in San Jose and this is our first fundraiser. It is in what's the first one, shoreline. Boulevard 2940 North Shoreline Boulevard. Shoreline Golf Links. Yes, so we're doing our first fundraiser annual McDonald High School Sports. Booster Club Golf Tournament 2025. Saturday, april 26 2025. It's a two person scramble, the price is $150. Goes to Booster Club Golf Tournament 2025. Saturday, april 26, 2025. It's a two-person scramble, the price is $150. It goes to a good cause.

Speaker 3 35:07

It's a youth athletic program, but, matt, would you want to compete in this?

Speaker 4 35:09

Sure, I mean yeah, if it's open on that weekend, for sure. You said a two-person, two-person scramble. Oh man, two-person scramble.

Speaker 3 35:14

Two-person's person scramble. Two person scramble Two person's tough. Yeah, because like the thing about two person is the putting.

Speaker 2 35:19

Yeah.

Speaker 3 35:19

If you put, if you miss the first putt, it puts so much pressure on the second, even like the like the five footers with the four man scramble someone's going to make it.

Speaker 1 35:26

Someone's got it. That's our jam.

Speaker 3 35:29

Like two people one person misses that hole gets like it's like my bad bro.

Speaker 4 35:35

You got that, though you got me I was telling him too, like at least it's not an alternate shot. Oh, dude.

Speaker 3 35:40

Yeah, that would be like a score of a G-Ride.

Speaker 2 35:44

I'm on the T-Box Well we're doing that All right.

Speaker 1 35:49

We're also agency might sponsor a hole, we're out, but we're really excited about that and, yeah, it'd be great if you could join us. I don't know exactly what. I know it's like a big ass trophy. I don't know if there's like a money prize but I know we get pure sponsorship by HSC.

Speaker 4 36:05

I don't know about pure sponsorship, calm the hell down with that.

Speaker 1 36:09

I can sponsor a hole. I don't even know if it's a preferred hole, but I'll figure that out. But we're yeah. And then also, I wanted to shout out I'm wearing my Sunday swagger polo.

Speaker 3 36:21

I became an ambassador.

Speaker 1 36:23

So I will have 15% off link below the show notes. If you guys want to get your Sunday swagger, Click the link they gave me. Like a weird. It was like Austin 8-16-13.

Speaker 4 36:35

They should ask for 3-16. It was right, austin 8-16-13.

Speaker 1 36:37

They should ask for 3-16. I was like why did they? It was right there.

Speaker 4 36:39

It was like right there, it could have been right there we're hanging fruit.

Speaker 1 36:41

It's 8-16-13. That's cool, but that's that. But also, what I wanted to touch on was how did you start golfing? We all had our things, we got into it.

Speaker 3 37:01

What was your defining moment of like? Oh, I like this sport, I'm gonna keep going. So I was. I've been playing golf for quite some time. I mean, I played as a kid, uh, so, uh, yeah, my dad got me into it, like back in the day, but I wasn't all that great. So I, I did play in high school, but it was one of those high schools that was super small so you could play all the sports and golf was just the one I played at the end. But I, I played a water polo, uh, I, I mean I rode the bench basketball, uh, and uh, yeah, um, pretty much played a little bit through high school. But then when I went to college, I stopped playing because I didn't have a car all right, it's hard to get out and then I only after I graduated, I was only playing like once or twice, like a year maybe, um, but then I mean, I'm basically, as a result of a pandemic, golfer again, basically, oh, really.

Speaker 3 37:40

Yeah, well, I mean, I was probably like a mid-handicap through college I mean not through college, through high school and college but once the pandemic came around I was playing like every weekend and I got pretty decent, almost like a single-digit handicap, oh wow. But I like don't like practicing. So my practice is when I play, and so recently, even with the channel, it maybe doesn't look like it, but I haven't been playing every weekend anymore, you know. So sometimes I film multiple like if I like film like two 18s in a day, that's two weeks of releases, right. So sometimes I like try to front load everything and so like everything that's been released. So I recently just released like three or four videos all from like a weekend trip but it was like four rounds or whatever, but that's a month's worth of content but I filmed that in a weekend, right, but pretty much, you know, I've been playing a lot more golf after after the pandemic. But yeah, I played in high school and I played as a kid, but I was never competitive. You know, there was like some, there was like kids that were like always way better than me, but, like I said, I didn't like, I didn't like to practice, you know.

The TGL and Modern Golf Entertainment

Speaker 3 38:41

Yeah, it's so funny because the Bryson's old coach his name is Mike Shy. I used to take lessons from him so in or in, you know, central Valley and like he was even around when I was taking lessons. And he was even around when I was taking lessons but he was already on a different. He's a couple of I don't know how many years younger than me but he was just like some young kid, just super passionate about the game, practiced all the time. I was like, oh man, yeah, he could be pretty good. Little did I know. He won like two majors but yeah, same kind of instructor, but you can just tell he was very passionate about it and he like practiced his butt off. I was just like I'll never be, like that.

Speaker 3 39:21

But yeah, so that's kind of how I grew up, you know, I didn't grow up loving the game, but then, you know, after getting back into it, you know, I think the main thing is what's good about golf is you can play it with you know, anyone different ages, genders, whatever. So like got back into it, playing more with my dad kind of thing, and so it's like something we share more, and so that kind of motivated me more to get back into it too, and him as well, and then my brother too. He kind of played a little bit. So we all kind of got back into it, and now my mom's getting into golf, yeah. So maybe we'll do like a, you know, family scramble video or something, I don't know.

Speaker 3 39:55

But yeah, so like a you know family scramble video or something I don't know. But yeah, so it was. It was. Yeah, it was like never a love thing until recently, until with the channel and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 40:03

That's beautiful man.

Speaker 3 40:04

Yeah, See, that's a lot so if you get your kids into it when you're old, you could probably still give them, you know, junior run, right, so those kind of things. I think that's what makes golf so great. You know, like you can get your butt handed to you by some old person that's like 30 years old. Yeah, kind of. I've seen some.

Speaker 4 40:22

Dude, our friend's dad. You know like we play out in Dublin over at the Pleasanton.

Speaker 1 40:30

Romeo's dad. Romeo's dad.

Speaker 3 40:35

Like he doesn't hit it far, but he is literally a fairway finder.

Speaker 4 40:36

Straight every time, straight fairway finder. And you're just like man. This guy's cooking right now.

Speaker 1 40:40

We're going to cook by this guy. My uncle's roasting us right now and then when we finally get a good hit.

Speaker 4 40:44

he's like oh, you showed up. Hey, you're like yeah. Are you talking to? Yeah, are you talking to man? That's why we playing with them. But you know, it's like, yeah, it's just like that, like anyone can play. It's like it's funny because, like you know, you're in high school. These guys like, yeah, football, basketball, like you play golf yeah, this is definitely a stigma in high school.

Speaker 3 41:04

Oh, you guys are the. I mean we were like probably second to the bottom from the totem pole, other than the tennis team. For some reason tennis was like. Tennis was like in our area. Like wasn't like this for us in the Central Valley. So I'm from Kingsburg, so they're a huge football.

Speaker 1 41:19

There's a whole football town Central Valley football.

Speaker 3 41:21

Yeah, yeah, so everything's football, football, football, even water polo was like you know a couple of rungs down, but like golf and tennis were at the bottom for sure, yeah, yeah, but it was like not a cool thing, but it's turning around, it's like cool. I mean there's stuff like full swing and you know all this other. Like it's cool to golf. Well, because also, you can make a ton of money now. Well, you could back in the day, but you can make a lot of money in golf. So I don't know what it is about this younger generation, that's all about making that dough. But yeah, like they, you know it's appealing, right, it's kind of appealing, but it's a lot cooler than it was.

Speaker 1 41:55

For sure, oh for sure, they come out with what the Reno one, the Reno.

Speaker 3 41:59

Legion TGL baby oh yeah, I was wearing this shirt right now.

Speaker 1 42:01

Playoff tonight Is that what it is.

Speaker 3 42:03

I don't know Playoff tonight. It's coming up in like an hour or like a couple minutes here.

Speaker 4 42:07

Yeah, yeah, is it the Final Just lost to New York yesterday, so it's going to be New York, and then Whoever wins today, yeah, I got 50 on the Bay to win, so I'm just like come on, baby, I'm so new to the?

Speaker 1 42:20

What is a TGL Like what is that?

Speaker 4 42:23

It's a way for Tiger to play more golf.

Speaker 3 42:24

Yeah, real talk, real talk. So Wait, did he find it? He's one of the founders so TGL is like tomorrow's golf league. I've done a whole bit on it on my channel but kind of got tired of making content for it because it's just whatever. But basically it's like part sim golf and then part like real golf. So they hit into a screen virtually and then they all hit to a screen that's the same and then they have that same exact physical green in person in a stadium like right behind them.

Speaker 3 42:52

Yeah, right behind them. So once they hit onto the green, a light shines down where their ball lands and they go drop it, and then they play out the rest of the hole.

Speaker 2 43:01

They're trying to bring golf to like the stadium feel. Yeah, like basketball, like stadium feel. It's crazy because the green rotates, yeah. Has like a bunch of different like to give you breaks and stuff. Yeah, it's insane, like technology.

Speaker 4 43:11

It's insane. Like technology.

Speaker 3 43:13

You know, what I mean.

Speaker 4 43:14

And I can't hit a flush. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 43:18

And they have like real grass, they hit off, they bring out these big squares of grass that they stand on and hit on into the screen Damn or sand or sand, depending on the line.

Speaker 4 43:26

Yeah, it's insane dude.

Speaker 1 43:27

So it just sounds like they're trying to make it more watchable also.

Speaker 2 43:30

Yeah.

Speaker 4 43:31

More pace. It's the first season, first season.

Speaker 3 43:34

So the biggest draw is the fact that it's on a Monday or Tuesday afternoon evening. Yeah, because golf will never occupy that spot, because you need daylight, unless it's a nighttime course. Yeah, so there's a lot of people that just watch it because it's on ESPN and it's on ESPN.

Speaker 4 43:50

It's like on, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 43:51

So it's like bonus golf, and I made this comparison. It's kind of like when disney picked up star wars. There's a lot of people who are upset because you know a lot of the programs other than like and. Or you know a couple big ones or like. You know, uh, boba, fett right, or yeah, yeah, like, other than that there's been a lot of flops and people were just like upset that you know.

Speaker 3 44:13

Hey, you know all these crappy things, but it's more Star Wars yeah, more this is just more golf, right like, and it doesn't take away from the major tour because they're not taking away from tournaments. Yeah, these athletes that are playing, they're not, you know, sacrificing anywhere else that they would be playing at the time anyway. So oh, it's like, because it's they scheduled it really nicely to where it's, you know, in between tournaments. That's pretty nice, yeah, so you can see more of your favorite players playing.

Speaker 2 44:41

It's just more screen time, more screen time, yeah.

Speaker 3 44:43

More memes whatever.

Speaker 2 44:45

It's like yeah.

Speaker 4 44:46

I like it. It's fun. Yeah, I enjoy it yeah.

Speaker 3 44:48

I'll put it on. I mean, I'm saying this while I'm, you know, but like it's not like a 49ers Like I went in person in Florida and it wasn't like electrifying, like a Niners game, or even I like the Sacramento Kings like, or even going to an NBA game. Right, you know nothing, nothing replaces that kind of feel, but it's trying to. You know, cheer for a team. It's kind of dead in between holes. You know how like there's some dead time in like NBA. Well, NBA is not that bad, there's usually continuously go. But NFL there's like dead time in between downs, yeah, yeah. But like TGL, the downtime was like after they put in the hole and they like set up the next hole Like there's a commercial break. It was super long.

Speaker 2 45:32

Yeah, when I was there in person.

Speaker 3 45:33

I was just like just waiting 20 minutes or no, no, not 20 minutes, but it'd be. It's more than football, for sure it's just the low.

Speaker 4 45:39

It just feels like.

Speaker 3 45:39

The low is too long, yeah, yeah, and they need to fill it up with, like you know, like stuff on the screen. You know we're the second seed.

Speaker 1 46:00

Yeah, we're like the best yeah we're the best.

Speaker 4 46:04

We're on our way. We're the best. Who's the?

Speaker 3 46:05

first seed. It was LA, but they lost yesterday.

Speaker 1 46:08

Nice Beat, la, beat LA.

Speaker 3 46:12

But see, this kind of discourse is what they're trying to get with team golf. Right, like you. Don't talk about the like you know. Oh yeah, beat Rory, beat Rory, you know it's not the same. But you know people are seeing like, okay, the team like they have Live Golf too, but no one really watches. I mean, people watch it but like the team about Live Golf, I don't care about any of those teams for some reason but for this like I kind of care because it's Bay Area you attach a city.

Speaker 2 46:38

yeah, exactly, exactly. They have good branding. They attach your area yeah, exactly so.

Speaker 3 46:42

The fact that we're having discourse like our other sports teams that we go to cheer for is what they're going for in terms of T-Chill, so I think it's working.

Speaker 4 46:51

I dig it for sure, Like I'm excited to see where it goes and expand the game too, you know so Where's?

Speaker 1 46:58

the Bay Area headquarters at so that's the thing.

Speaker 3 47:01

It's like the teams they have a location tied to their name but they don't operate. So, like the Bay Area team is like three internationals.

Speaker 4 47:10

And then Wyndham Clark who's not from the Bay Area? It's Ludwig Eivor, like who is we got a stud though. Yeah, shane. Lowry and Minwoo Lee oh man, I'm so mad at Shane Lowry right now, bro. I had him first round leader and this guy didn't even make the cut for the players yeah, cause what was the last tournament? The Arnold Palmer, right before he played really well and I was like, oh man, this guy's really cooking right now, and then he cooked himself out of the cut, bro.

Speaker 1 47:36

I was like damn.

Speaker 4 47:37

Can you bet on these games yeah?

Speaker 3 47:42

you, can you can?

Speaker 1 47:44

I didn't know you could bet.

Speaker 3 47:47

If it's a sport, you can bet on it.

Speaker 2 47:49

You can bet on anything. You can bet darts man. Yeah, I mean not like.

Speaker 1 47:56

I have yeah, no, you can, but yeah. No, that's good. I wanted to learn more about the TGL because, I've seen it, they do a great job marketing it and it makes you interested, like what the hell is this? And then you see Tiger and you're like what the hell is that? Is he playing on team 2 or no?

Speaker 3 48:12

yeah, he was. I think they were like bottom 2 or something yeah, but they, they were just more like comedy yeah, they Not very good, they were having fun.

Speaker 2 48:20

for sure, tom Kim was on that team.

Speaker 3 48:22

Tom Kim Max Homa Tiger and Kevin Kisner. Kisner had the….

Speaker 4 48:26

He like bladed one across the… when he was like chipping, bladed it and everyone was just laughing yeah.

Speaker 3 48:34

So it's smart, it's like modern day, because attention spans of youth and just people in general is getting way shorter. So just like the pitch clock in baseball how they're spinning the game they're trying to make golf more enticing by you know, yeah, they have a shot clock 40 seconds per shot.

Speaker 3 48:48

So that's why it's always two. It's only two hours long, low commitment to watch and it's quick and you know it's modern. They're trying to get people into golf, you know pretty much, and I think we'll see Like maybe it doesn't appeal for maybe people who are older than us, but I think for the younger generation, I think they like it more than like going to a course and waiting five hours to play 18 holes right.

Speaker 1 49:12

Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, what was? I wanted to ask you this too, because I know a lot of people in our audience especially for this episode beginner golfers. What are the top three mistakes you've seen, or even yourself you experienced that beginner golfers make that kind of hold them back from actually getting to that next level that we always strive for?

Speaker 3 49:34

I think it's really. I'm always about setting the proper expectations and then kind of identifying. For me, I break it out into two types of like mindsets. So there, in terms of just practicing for beginner golfers, there's two things. One is like you know, making your swing actually better, and the other is like just practicing your golf swing so you know what you're going to get on the course, right.

Speaker 3 50:02

So two are completely different ballgames, right, when getting getting your swing better, that takes a lot of time on the range, experimenting, right. But to make that apply to your on-course swing, it takes a lot of practice, right, whereas, like if, instead of focusing on making your swing better, it's really the other part of it, like the other side of the coin, it's just figuring out like, okay, if I have a seven iron and I go hit it five times on the range, what does it tend to do? And then finding out, unlocking, you know, knowing the knowledge of what your swing does is more powerful to me than being able to hit a really good shot right. So, like, if you're 100 yards out, what club are you taking normally?

Speaker 3 50:41

me yeah, yeah, just anything I'm pitching.

Speaker 1 50:44

Yeah, sir.

Speaker 3 50:44

No, I mean that's fine, like right. So yards out. What club are you taking? Normally Me, yeah, just anything. That's fine. You're pitching wedge, you're 100 yards out. Do you know what your pitching wedge usually does? Does it just go 100 yards straight?

Speaker 1 50:51

No, it launches 150. When he catches it, flush he's 150.

Speaker 3 50:56

That's also something you need to know. That's your on-course swing. It's knowing what your clubs can do and then trying to figure out how to best position yourself on the course in order to predict the worst possible outcome right so, like, if you're 100 yards, you hit pitching wedge.

Course Management and Beginner Tips

Speaker 3 51:14

Well, sometimes I hit it 150 instead of 100. Maybe I shouldn't be pulling one pitching wedge right. So it's like what is the best club for me? To go 100 yards right and then, if you're, if you know that knowledge, if you build all that up, then you can start practicing to get your swing better. So that's kind of how I view it know what you're capable of and what you do on a regular basis and plan for that, rather than, you know, trying to improve.

Speaker 3 51:40

Well, yeah, obviously you want to prove your swing, but, like, for me, I just think about it like, okay, I'm trying to improve. Well, yeah, obviously you want to improve your swing, but like, for me, I just think about it like, okay, I'm trying to hedge. What's my worst possible outcome? I set up for that. If I draw my gap wedge usually a little bit every time, I'm going to set up a little bit to the right with my gap wedge and hit it 100. Instead of like, oh, yeah, on the range, I'm not going to think about that at all. I'm going to go out there and set myself up and play my most predictable shot. So it's kind of those two things rather than, you know, beating a bunch of balls on the range. That's fine, but then, if you're going to go on the range, what are you kind of trying to do? Are you trying to improve your swing, or are you just trying to figure out what your swing is doing?

Speaker 3 52:21

That's a great perspective Because the knowledge is half the battle, I think for mid-handicaps we don't have all that time to practice. If you have time to practice, time to build up your swing, then do it. But if you're going to the course and you have no idea what your 7-iron does, you know, just think about the scenarios you have on the golf course and then just say, okay, yeah, this is the club that will do that, right, yeah, so it's not like, you know, mind-blowing or anything, it's just really, as a mid-handicapper, just trying to be realistic with your swing and you know, playing to know, I mean, obviously you're not going to hit them all. Good, right, um. But that's how kind of how I see it. Now I I'm more, uh, more you know course management, more, because I know that I'm not going to hit them all.

Speaker 3 53:13

Good, right, right, right. So, yeah, if you're always hitting it from 100 yard out, find out that club that you are good with, but not only that, you can hit that. But what shot shape does it do? Right, what's the result of that? Right, because then you know, okay, yeah, if I slice it every time, then play that slice every time, but just set up for it on the course, right, I try.

Speaker 4 53:36

Yeah, we always tell them like yo play your slice, you know. And then after our rounds I was like man. If only our chipping putting course management our driver was good, we'd probably play a better score. You know, yeah, mindset that's a huge one People tend to overlook, probably.

Speaker 3 53:52

Yeah, I mean, and then I might be coming from a different place because I've been playing golf for so long so I can't. Honestly, a lot of pros and stuff that try to tell you do a lot of scenes they don't remember what it's like to be crappy at golf, right? So how can they? How can they?

Speaker 3 54:07

that's actually great even myself, me saying this in that position, like I don't. I mean I've shot in the hundreds, you know last year, I've done it before, but like I don't do it all the time, so I can't. I can only tell you you know an individual so much. The golf game of golf is so different for everyone. It's really hard. It's more people like trying to get when terms come to instructors, it's more of them getting into their system because they know, you know, they know how people can fit into it, rather than just you know going to the individual, seeing what they're doing and then making a system for them. Right, it's like it's pretty. That's why golf is so crazy, like crazy hard, you know.

Speaker 1 54:44

No, I know it's always continuous. Like you said, play your slice, yeah.

Speaker 3 54:51

The best thing that I can say for mid-hand campers is play. Try to play one type of miss Like. If you're spraying it left and right off the tee, you're just going to hit a ton out of bounds, right. But if you can like and it could be ugly or whatever, but if you know you fade it every time, even if it's a really big fade, then at least you know like you can just aim left and sometimes you'll get in the middle, sometimes you'll slice it back into the other fairway. But if you're hitting in the middle and you go out of ten, play the slice and then that tenth one, so be it. If it goes left, whatever.

Speaker 1 55:28

Dude, it always goes straight every time I try to play my slice man.

Speaker 3 55:33

Yeah, but if you forcibly, that's like getting to know your swing, yeah, Like for me, like recently I had the driving yips or whatever. I was going left and right, left and right. Then I switched some stuff on my drive, I did some tinkering, but now I just play for a right to left shot and it's just like every time I step to the tee I know it's going to go right to left and I just live with it If one or two that go right. But if I can hit you yourself, aiming in the middle, praying your miss.

Speaker 2 56:06

Praying. Your miss doesn't go out of bounds.

Speaker 3 56:08

You'd rather just set up for it. Know your miss, it's going to be a severity, severity. You know one way or another, but at worst, at least, you won't be out of bounds. They say 100 yards in is super important, but like getting it and play off the tee, I feel like for mid-handicapper is more important. If you keep your score legitimately, if you hit out of bounds like oh that didn't count, 3-t, then of course 100 yards in is important. But you know, hitting out of bounds that's, it's tough.

Speaker 4 56:40

Aim small, miss small baby. Yeah well, I'll try, it happens man.

Speaker 3 56:45

But also try to hit as far as possible Just rip it, just rip it 100% full cowl yeah yeah yeah, yeah, man, do you have anything?

Speaker 4 56:54

else you want to. Oh, you know what I did want to mention. One of my favorite videos of yours is the Taste of the Masters.

Speaker 3 57:02

Oh okay, my favorite videos of yours is the, uh, the taste of the masters. Oh okay, I've seen that I'm like you know the lower.

Speaker 4 57:05

I wanted, I want to taste the. You know what the food is like at the masters. But I saw your video. I was like oh, this is a great video, yeah. It's I mean the food stuff you're doing now.

Speaker 3 57:16

Aren't you a, you're an iron chef.

Speaker 4 57:23

I was in the restaurant industry.

Speaker 3 57:24

Okay, yeah, that's what I thought I was watching some other episodes.

Speaker 4 57:30

Then the pandemic took out our restaurant and I'm back here. We're probably, like I said, we're working our way back, but by profession, yeah.

Speaker 3 57:39

Yeah, that's what I thought. The taste of the Masters, yeah, it's good, but I I mean just to let everyone know the masters they send out and they just got an email the other day for it like a food kit that you can enjoy masters food at your home and you can watch the masters, right, they send you. It's all freeze-dried, it's packaged real nice. They gave you the whole nines, but the thing is the charm about the Masters food is that it's cheap. So I've been to the Masters. I went in 2019, the year Tiger won, so I got super lucky. Yeah, I went on a Thursday, that's a whole other episode.

Masters Tournament Food and Predictions

Speaker 3 58:12

But what's notable there is the food is super cheap, at least back then 2019. It's like $3 for an egg sandwich or something, and then they don't have any branded stuff, so it's like it's like it's like light beer or beer, or they don't put Budweiser, so they don't. They control everything. They don't do any sponsored anything, right, so they keep the prices low and the food is pretty cheap, but the thing is they don't. It's not like the most delicious food ever.

Speaker 4 58:43

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's pretty whatever.

Speaker 3 58:46

It's pretty, but there are some pretty good things they have like the pimento cheese sandwich a couple of dollars, but it's not like amazing or anything. So if you want to experience the food, it is pretty close to it, because just think about how good food can get shipped across the country in a, you know, a frozen package or whatever, and you heat it up. That's basically. It does taste like that, but it's not like a mind blowing good, you know that's pretty smart, though that's actually smart on them.

Speaker 4 59:11

Speaking of the masters who you got this year, who do you think is winning the masters this year?

Speaker 3 59:15

Oh man, I that's a great Homer and me, says Bryson, but I won't go there. I think as much as people don't like that. I think Joaquin Neiman's going to be in the play.

Speaker 4 59:28

Ooh, okay, yeah, he's asking for a bet. No, I already know who I'm betting on. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, they always let me down. Okay, mori Kawawa.

Speaker 3 59:39

Oh, okay. Yeah, I think Rory is. Obviously. This is the hottest start he's ever had, so he's going to be in the mix.

Speaker 4 59:45

But yeah, we'll see, I wish my boy was playing in the Masters though, rico Hoey. He's Filipino I've been following this dude, but he's not quite there yet, but he's on the tour, so I love this guy. Tour's a tour.

Speaker 1 59:58

Tour's a tour, you're on the tour. Yeah, man, isn't that like last place?

Speaker 2 1:00:00

you still get money you gotta make the cut. You gotta make the cut, you gotta make it to the weekend Xander.

Speaker 4 1:00:05

He was last guy of the cut. I think he made 50 grand on the player so that pays for the trip.

Speaker 3 1:00:11

I guess should've seen pays for the private jet yeah, I was like bruh but yeah, it's crazy, it's cool.

Speaker 1 1:00:20

Damn, that's hella good. All right, well, anyone else got anything else? Because I'm about to wrap this baby up. Thank you, matt, for coming on.

Speaker 3 1:00:27

Thank you Thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 1:00:28

Oh my God, that was great.

Speaker 1 1:00:30

That was like an hour already gone by. Dude, it's quick. Thank you guys for watching the Nerd Out Workout podcast, our golf episode. Thank you guys for coming out.